What's happening to the US of A?

It is sad that here in USA the skin color still plays a big part. Take for instance the trial that went on forever. The with man shot a black teenager in self-defence. His life (white guy) was all over for months and months, he spent all his money defending himself. NOW, if you look at statistics you will find, lots of Black men shoting a black teenager---to you see them all over the front page (NO) do you see them using up all their money to defend themselves (NO).

Ok, to Clueless, you got it pretty right, but left out one detail OBAMA is the dictator. Obama if he had any talent in changing things he would be able to talk with both sides to get to a smoother decision long before this. This looks like two groups now who will not come out and play nice. And it has to do with the parent.

 

It has, have you heard of "positive discrimination".

 

This is the part I'm still struggling to comprehend. I'm, not going to try too hard because I don't need to know, I'm just casually interested

Obama has shown incredibly negotiating skill in his career as US President. The US and Iran were literally ready to kill each other just before Obama came to power. The US politicians in general, it seems to me, think that all middle eastern countries are backward pushovers, so the majority were happy to pick a fight with Iran. Obama appeared to realise that no only could the US not win that one at that time, but NOT fighting was a viable alternative. He demonstrated his negotiating skills when he managed to talk that one down without the US appearing to have backed down.

In assisting the Libyan uprising, there was immense pressure on Obama to just go in all guns blazing. After all, this was a rare chance to bag Gaddafi, but again he talked, negotiated terms that would be supported by Libya's neighbour's and then authorised a very limited, controlled intervention.

These two things alone, demonstrate to me that Obama, or at the very least his minions acting under his command, has impeccable talking skills, and that he listens too. If he did not listen, quite possibly the US would now be locked in a stalemate war with Iran. Maybe the world would be at war by now because having picked a fight in Iran, Afghanistan, and Iraq, other middle eastern nations that have been itching to have a pop for years might well have exploited the situation.

If he really was a dictator, could he not have simply ignored the republican opposition and did as he pleased anyway?

 

Remember, the new media here, plays up what they wish to and plays down other things. Not everything is true from the news media.

 

Dream on! I'm considered a freak on our trading estate as I have friends from Asia and the Asian sub-continent. Some of the things that I hear are really offensive, sometimes from genuinely intelligent people.

 

But its true that when Obama came to power, the US was heading very swiftly towards another war it couldn't win (Iran), and when Obama came in, he somehow managed to diffuse the situation. Its also true that under Obama's command, the US didn't start WW3 in the middle east when they intervened to Libya. We all know the media paints its own picture, but just looking out my front window and seeing that we don't appear to be in WW3 convinces me that at least some of it is true.

 

As far as the Middle East goes, I see one big problem, Israel.
The Yanks will defend them to the hilt, and if push come to shove I guess we would also.

I tend to think a lot of the meddling in the Middle East is to appease Israel, and stop them starting an all out war in the region.

I didn't know the US was involved in Libya, I thought it was mostly the French and our two aircraft.

 

Totally agree Clueless! From here it seems that he's being held to ransom by a bunch of Redneck infants who have thrown their toys out of the pram 'cos all those "nasty people" didn't vote for them.
All the fuss about Obamacare is a little baffling - it strikes me that it is just an American version of our National Insurance without the NHS and state pension (over simplified maybe, but appears to be the crux of it).

Same all over the world.

 

As always, you seem to have hit the nail on the head!

 

Does anyone think that if the NHS had not started way back in the late 40s, over here, it would be easy to get a similar system going now days.

I doubt it would get off the ground, the cost would be colossal, and I'm sure there would be very similar protests against it.

Nobody likes change, and if its going to cost them money they like it even less.
They presumably see them selves paying for other peoples health care, when up to now they have paid their own.

 

I've been reading this thread with interest, particularly as my son now lives in America and is married to an American.

A question I have to ask is.....if President Obama was white would he be getting as much hassle as he is now?

I've just heard a budget agreement is very close to being reached.