Lies and excuses

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  1. Jiffy

    Jiffy The Match is on Fire

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    Cyanide gas is safe ish but you must not breave it in, they use it to control all sort of things even on food you may be eating to control bugs, to use the gas it has to be in a sealed place to work and then venited, the gas is then in to the air around us but it's a heavy gas so it will be low to the ground
     
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    • Jenny namaste

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      Do other animals use the badger runs/ sets Jiffy?
      How do you feel about this culling attempt?
       
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      Jenny, No, other animals don't use badger sets as badgers can be nasty and do eat other animals, but i think once empty then yes, but if they gased and the body left not sure, but saying that freddy the fox may use it and have a free dinner
       
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      Thank you Jiffy,
      Jenny
      all part of man's battle against Nature I suppose. We always think we can do better...
       
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      Makes for very interesting reading Jiffy. I am grateful to you for putting up this link and I strongly recommend GC members to read this article below. We have not been told the real truth about badgers /cattle/BTB:

      http://www.bovinetb.co.uk/article.php?article_id=139

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        Just herd on the news that the number of farms with BTB is higher then it should be dew to a computer glitch
         
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        Ah yes, the old 'computer glitch'. There is only one kind of computer glitch, the total hardware failure. All other computer glitches are actually human error. Either on the part of the software development team that wrote the erroneous code, tested it and signed it off, or more often than not, the person/team/committee that wrote the specification for the query.

        A computer is not clever enough to make mistakes. It operates entirely as a machine, completely operating in terms of 1s and 0s. Stuff is either on or off, true or false, right or wrong, black or white. It does exactly what its been told to do by a human and is incapable of doing anything other than that.

        Tomorrow, instead of driving to work, I might drive to the pub instead, and then tell everyone at work I couldn't get there because of a 'car glitch'. I'll say it was my car that went wrong and took me to the wrong destination. Not human error at all. That would never wash. A car is just a machine. It does what the driver tells it to do. It is actually more plausible that the car could have a glitch than the computer can because the car has moving parts with physical stresses and strains. Yet for some reason, 'computer glitch' seems to be a widely accepted excuse for anything.
         
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          So it worked out at £1,800 for every Badger shot in the cull.

          What was that about cutbacks, belt tightening etc.?
           
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            Only £1,800 per badger in Somerset? That seems a real bargain rate for badger killing and that doesn't even include those badgers blasted with shotguns and dumped in rivers!

            It costs ten times that to kill Gloucestershire badgers!
            http://www.itv.com/news/west/2014-0...ger-culls-more-than-double-initial-estimates/
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              I'm in a very sticky situation having moved out here. I'm a townie born and bred. Here my nearest neighbour is a dairy farmer. I'm sorry if people here disagree but I'm a big animal lover and have already stated my stance with regards to fox hunting, which does happen around here on Boxing Day (one rides past my gate, but I wouldn't be a saboteur) but I've kept my mouth shut with regards badger culling. It's a fine line these days with regards to people's livelihoods being threatened with BTB, but studies have shown that vaccination is cheaper and more effective, albeit if you can get all the badgers. Maybe my rose-tinted glasses have coloured my views, but the stats etc do seem a little 'fixed' to allow for the culls to take place
               
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                Talk about tempting fate. Took the car out to get some petrol, just after I posted the above, and my back brakes are making a hell of a noise. Daren't drive it now until after I've fixed it/got someone else to fix it.
                 
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                • Phil A

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                  I must have got the decimal point in the wrong place:doh:

                  You know, even as a vegetarian, if they had paid me £18,000 I could have run over a lot of Badgers for that price :doh:

                  ....Only kidding, wouldn't even consider it.

                  But still, lets cut services all across the board, and then waste this much money on something no one wanted in the first place?????????????????????????????

                  Is our government actually insane??????????????????
                   
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                    Yes.
                     
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                      You'd be made to think otherwise:doh::heehee:
                       
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