Looks like a Sea around the Mump

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    Sometimes flooding does come fast though. I was in Sheffield in the 2007 one. It only took about an hour to complete submerge parts of the city centre, to a depth of several feet. There's no way it was on purpose, or if it was it was a daft idea as it caused £millions in total carnage, actually demolishing brick walls and a major road, several substations were knocked out, countless residential properties were not just flooded but physically smashed in some cases, and lots of business was lost. It was just total carnage. And it came so fast that it caught everybody off guard. Apparently the authorities put out a public announcement that if anyone knows anyone in the Sheffield area that is unaccounted for, they should let the coppers know their mobile number so that they could triangulate on the signal and mountain a rescue. People were airlifted from the Royal Mail sorting office, the entire ground floor was under water.

    Sometimes its down to the geography. Sheffield is in the usually fortunate position of sitting nestled between a number of big hills which shelters it from a lot of the weather, but the flip side is if it rains hard on the peaks, all that water ends up in the rivers Rother and Don which run right through Sheffield.
     
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      There were quite a number animals that got caught up in the massive rush of water that we are pretty certain had to have been released. We saw quite a few casualties flashing past. Mainly Sheep but also a couple of what we think were Swans:sad:. Grim.
       
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        Someone must know if it was deliberate Silu, folk can't keep a secret like that.
         
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          Freedom of information request?
           
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            We did ask the council about whether there had been a controlled release of water from the dam but never got a straight answer. We then took legal advice and were advised to stop asking difficult questions! Rightly or wrongly our insurance company had agreed to pick up the tab for the massive amounts of damage. If it was admitted that the dam had been opened then we were into a minefield of who was responsible for the damage caused to us and others! Proving liability could have taken years and in the meantime our and other homes would have been rotting to bits. Not sure it was morally correct but we took the advice and got our house repaired as soon as possible.
             
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              I would do the shame in your shoes silu.

              But now you have the insurance money you can start asking the awkward questions again :)
               
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                Aww, poor things.

                Pity about their mates :sad:

                This is Sedgemoor this afternoon, from Swell Woods.

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                  So when's it all going to be pumped out? Initial reports were (after adding more pumps) for "1.5 million tonnes/cubic metres per day", then after all those giant pumps were imported from Holland it changed to "Over 1 million tonnes/cubic metres per day" which doesn't actually seem like an increase to me.
                   
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                    Pity about Mr Brock, which of the two is going to be the 50% cull by gun ?

                    The TV news about the pumps from Holland, says they have had to stop them, they are good in Holland as they pump millions of litres into the sea, In the Somerset Levels, they are pumping into the river and it is causing too much damage to the river banks, so had to stop them

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                      Typical. Something's announced in a fanfare of publicity, then dies quietly.

                      http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk...rset-beacuse/story-20639255-detail/story.html

                      But before those pumps arrived, the existing pumps were removing 1.5 million tonnes of water a day. What a shambles!

                      When I read that article it got me wondering about whether badgers in wildlife hospitals located in cull areas would be shot.
                       
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                        I stopped off at one of our local reservoirs on the way home. Its only half full. This got me thinking. Surely all the water pipes all over the country are arranged such that it wouldn't take much (in the grand scheme of things) to link them all together. So, I'm sure some suitably talented engineers could work out a way to shuffle water about the country in times of crisis.

                        Here's Scaling reservoir today.

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                          They did some time back by proposing to use the canals and rivers to "transport" water and then extract it at required points. I seen this in action and it is not good for the environment as it affects fish stock and connected wildlife, plus if it's badly managed [and judging by recent events it can be] water levels are affected badly causing more problems. Like all "good" ideas invented by man there are side effects that cancel out the "benefits".:dunno::snork:
                           
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                            The romans managed to transport water over considerable distance, and that was nearly 2000 years ago and without modern laser guided monster machines:)
                             
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                              Wasn't that using Slaves and buckets???:dunno::heehee: The Romans did build and use aquifers in their conquered countries but didn't apply it to Britain as much as there was always plenty of water around. So their engineering regarding water was mostly local building earthen dams, tanks and small aqueduct systems for use in mining etc. I think some of the reasons they didn't build water courses in real length was the Celts, Picts. and everyone else around who didn't like them, plus there was no real compelling need to transport water around but, as we all know, they needed to get supplies and military around.:snork:
                               
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