Bit close for comfort

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  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    I have a feeling that this man knew he was going to be released into the real world in the immediate future and just didn't want to go. What better way of ensuring that he didn't have to face the struggle of real life, paying bills, etc but live in reasonable security, conditions, without going without food etc than acting in the way he did. Going out and robbing a Bank knowing the whole Police Force and public were on the alert for him was, to me, the act of a man desperate to go back to Prison. He'd already absconded twice in the past from prisons, committed violent robberies and yet the Parole Boards in their infinite wisdom decide this is a man fit to to released. The system of Parole, Governors and the Boards should be overhauled radically and if need be held accountable for their decisions and actions.:coffee:
     
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      Maybe on a subconscious level he was thinking like that, I would much prefer he wasn't given the choice!

      I think for hardened crims like this we need to look at the US for a model. Why the hell should we pay all the taxes we do in this country if we aren't guaranteed to be protected from the nutjobs we have already paid the Police, courts etc to put away?!
       
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        I'm afraid this situation is not a one-off. Check this out.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-27305157

        Basically, some lad punch a man in the face hard enough to kill him. The man hit the deck, and didn't get up. The lad that did it just casually walked away. He got 4 years for manslaughter.

        The powers that be challenged his sentence, saying it was too lenient. The court decided it was not too lenient at all, and the 4 year sentence still stands, so the perpetrator will probably serve maybe 30 months, for killing a man in a totally unprovoked attack.

        So apart from saying that 4 years is not lenient for such sick brutality, what about the actual crime that he was convicted of. Manslaughter. When I was a kid, I was taught that manslaughter is when you accidentally or negligently cause someone's death through an act of stupidity that was not meant as hostile. Murder is when you commit a deliberate hostile action that results in someone's death. It used to be that if you hit someone, and they died within 1 year and 1 day, and there death was found to be in the most part caused by the attack, then it was still murder.

        No matter how you look at it, if you attack somebody for no reason, and they die as a direct result of you attacking them, you have murdered them. It is not manslaughter, it is murder. Yet this lad got 4 years, and even when that sentence was challenged for being too lenient, another court ruled that 4 years was fine, for murdering someone in cold blood, in broad daylight, for no reason.
         
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        Well, I've been working for some time for the CPS and around 5 High Court Judges and I can assure you that there are no more angry and frustrated people than the Judges and the Police over these recurring situations.
        The Police and Judges don't always see eye to eye on matters but if, as a certain M'lord said to me today, a man with the criminal, several violations of parole licences history and the passing of 13 Life Sentences on him is placed in an Open Prison giving him the opportunity to walk out and commit violent crimes [even with the Parole licence] but just to underline the foolishness of the system is given Parole Licence then those persons taking those decisions and responsibility should appear themselves in Court to explain their actions and be accountable for them.
         
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          Well it looks like they caught him again at least. Hope someone has fluffed his pillow and changed the sheets while he was at the bank or they'll be hell to pay...
           
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