Solved Soft Fruit Identification

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    I'm not sure what these different canes are in my new allotment. I want to know so I can get them pruned if they need it, I think time is running out for some.

    This first one (next three photos) I reckon is blackberry:
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    Some of last year's fruit remaining, blackberries?
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      looks like it John
       
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        This second one (next four photos) could be raspberry?
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        Blurry photo but it;s showing last years fruit again:
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        It's got fairly fine thorns, difficult to see on my poor photo:
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        I've zoomed in, ignore the green leaf that's a weed:
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        I've no idea what the third one (next two photos) is - it is thornless. There are a couple in a row as though they have been planted on purpose:

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        Finally the last one (3 photos), another soft fruit?

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        I'm not a fruit grower John but post #4 is ringing a bell, could it be one of the currants?
         
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          It's got no thorns so I didn't think it was a currant, but I'm a bit clueless about them to be honest.
           
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            It looks like you're right John, they have thorns according to Google. I'm wrong but I've learned something in the process. :)
             
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              Having googled I wonder if my third one (post #4) is Blueberry?
               
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              I can't help you with that one, sorry. Perhaps somebody will be on tomorrow to help you out. :)The only other fruit I can think of is gooseberry.
               
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                Does the Blackberry have rose like thorns? If finer and straight (like Raspberries) it could be Loganberry.

                Raspberries with signs of last year's fruit on will be Autumn ones and need the old stems removing as this years fruit will be on new growth. Be careful how you weed closevto the plants and watch out for runners to increase your stock.

                Black (+ red/white) currants don't have thorns. Check for large, swollen buds - Bigbud desease.
                 
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                  #3 could well be Blueberries,it makes sense to grow two together.

                  #4 Could well be more Raspberries .You've got a great selection there John:dbgrtmb:
                   
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                    It could be blueberries they don't have thorns but mine are more bush like! If they are blueberries ( I don't want to teach you to suck eggs) you will need some ericacious compost & always use rainwater , they hate tap water & won't produce fruit!
                    The first definately a blackberry, the canes with the fine thorns are raspberry & will need cutting down, they should be shooting soon, I've only just done mine so you are bang on time!
                    The canes with no thorns are currents either red or back I'd say! Again you could give them a good cut back too :blue thumb:
                    Sounds like you have a great selection of fruit there :dbgrtmb:
                     
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                      Thanks for that information Beckie, I hadn't realised they needed acidic soil. I have the opposite soil, being on chalk, and I reckon the previous tenant knew what he/her was doing and wouldn't have planted something that wouldn't do well. So I can eliminate Blueberries, they must be Red or Black currants.

                      I'm going to pop into the allotment tomorrow evening and do a quick pruning job now I feel sure what everything is. Got my trusty RHS pruning guide to tell me what to do :)
                       
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                        The smooth-stemmed canes look like redcurrants, John. When leaves appear, you'll be able to tell straight away if you've got any blackcurrants there. Just rub a leaf and it will smell incredibly strong. Usually, currants and gooseberries are grown on a short stem with the framework branching out from that.
                        That last photo shows spiny stems and canes coming from underground so my guess is raspberries again.
                        Isn't it going to be exciting seeing what develops?:hapydancsmil:
                         
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