Whaaattt?

@NigelJ A spokesperson for the local Muslim community. In fairness to the police officer (female) she informed the spokesperson that we have freedom of speech in this country and if they didn't want to hear what was being said - move away.

 

On the plus side, all the "Trump was robbed of the Nobel Peace Prize" agitating seems to have quietened down! If he can turn the current situation into "I brought peace to the Middle East", he will deserve the Nobel Houdini Prize.

 

Meanwhile, Starmer is going to fund the opening of nursery places on primary school sites. All well and good ... but lots of primary schools had nurseries which were then closed with the space used for bigger reception intakes. These schools also had kitchens for cooking fresh lunches, which were closed and lunches were brought in, and then were reopened to provide for free meals for all infants, and so on!

Things just go round and round in circles. Kitchens are a good thing. Closing these was shortsighted. Nursery classes integrated with primaries are a good thing. Closing these was shortsighted. Policies are just too shorttermist, done for quick savings but then costing even more to reinstate down the line.

 

If he carries on the way he's going, he might even have to give back his fifa peace prize

 

I think the FIFA world cup should be either cancelled or rescheduled to venues in Canada and Mexico. The US can't be trusted to treat competitors, officials or fans with decency, especilly if they are brown.

Mid you, I could also do without any football at all, but it does seem absurd to put all these people at risk of ICE whims and shenanigans.

 

Iran has qualified for the World Cup, with games in the US that'll be interesting.
Meanwhile ICE operatives are being drafted into US airports due to a partial shutdown of Government, apparently US immigration officers are not being at the moment.

 

If there is a ceasefire soon in the US/Israeli vs Iran war, as Trump looks for the exit ramp, I expect demands for the Nobel Peace Prize will resume.
Can't see the Israelis being persuaded to stop that easily though.

 

Interesting that Trump is saying that they have been having productive talks with Iran, but Iran are denying that they have been speaking with him. Fairly typical. If that’s true, he is lying to save face when he backs off. I’m guessing his supporters will believe anything.
Trouble with using bullying as a tactic, is that it relies on the subject backing down in the face of it. If they don’t, he has nowhere to go apart from digging himself a deeper hole. He is just like a pre teen classroom bully. And when he starts with the name calling and insults, he is more like the nasty teenage girl who struts around with her clique thinking she is the bees knees!
Gets awkward when he tries these tactics on grownups.

 

I assume Trump has had some briefing from his military regarding getting shipping moving.
As they say, if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

I still hold the Israelis responsible for all this, Trump was sucked in.

 

Well he couldn't really say we're suing for peace; which is probably closer to the truth.
However if the marines turn up as expected at the end of this week he could decide the deal is "the worst thing ever" and it's all back on

 

@pete Israel have the goods on trump so he's been blackmailed into this and it probably also appeals to his vanity, thinking he could bomb Iran into submission in a few days.

Having seen a report on th enews yesterday where an Israeli soldier was lamenting that Europe had to help defeat Iran before it started bombing them too. I don't think Israel expected Iran to have inside help from Russia and China to identify strategic targets.

It's a huge mess and the pity is that Trump, Netanyahu and Putin are old men who won't live long enough to see what they are doing to the world.

 

the worrying part for me is that it has reveiled
that Iran does have long range missiles add to that a nuclear programme and they are downright dangerous.
At some point they will need to be dealt with as they are a complete bunch of nutters.

I think this will run and run if it doesn't get finished.

 

Of course you could say the same, quite accurately about the USA, the only difference being that the USA already has a nuclear arsenal.

...and we are wise to remember the UK's (and USA) shameful destruction of democracy in Iran: Mohammad Mosaddegh - Wikipedia

 

Trouble with Iran is it's ruled by religion, politics is bad enough, religion is something different and often has no sence, even if their own self destruction was to happen they would still continue.

Suicide bombers are a good example. ⁵

 

..Trouble with the UK (and the USA) is it's ruled by money Mohammad Mosaddegh - Wikipedia
Politics is bad enough, greed is something different and often has no sense, even if their own self destruction were to happen if they would continue.

Overthrowing Iranian democracy, and the subsequent (and particularly the current) dangerous conflicts between these countries and Iran are a good example.