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  1. Tidemark

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    My auntie, born circa 1900, was a lesbian and thrown out of the family home for it.
     
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    No problem with the term lesbian, which I understand was related to the island of Lesbos, but can’t remember why. I’m not keen on the word gay having been hijacked from its original meaning, which to me was lighthearted and cheerful. A homosexual friend told me that he was trying to find out whether there was a history of homosexuality in his family. His mother informed him that he had an uncle who was rather ‘bohemian’! Neither terms could be easily applied to a close relative and his partner, who are rather staid, respectable types, and would be hard to typecast.
    My apologies for previous references to my TMJ!
     
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    Bad English to me includes incorrect spelling, failure to follow grammatical rules, and not using apostrophes correctly. I do remember as a fairly young child, being sufficiently concerned (and brave!) to go into our local greengrocer’s shop to tell them that the potatoes should have been labelled as floury, rather than flowery. They were very nice about it, and thanked me for pointing it out. I’m sure they had a really good laugh once the precocious brat had left the shop!
     
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      Being that i'm bad at must things i better stop posting for a while, till i learn how to right propery :dunno: luckerly i'm deaf so it's easy to not look at thing's that i right :noidea::biggrin:
       
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        @NigelJ Just one example is using 'of' instead of 'have'. There are plenty more but I'm not going to list and/or justify every one of the irritants.
         
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          Thing's must be bad with spelling, i've been using a Solicitor for some thing but the other solicitor was making spelling mistakes on legal doc's and my solicitor didn't pick them up twas me who is bad at spelling/wrighting etc that was finding the mistakes which tell me that things must be very bad out there in the world :pathd:
           
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            I think the + is a catch all to sweep up everybody else.
            Sappho of Lesbos was a poetess from the isle of Lesbos who wrote a series of erotic poems to another woman, little of her work survives and a lot of that used to be only available in bowdlerised form.
            One legend had it that all the men went off to war and never returned.
             
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              I wouldn't expect you to justify anything, I was just intrigued as to what you considered to be bad English.
              Apparently the use of "of" instead of have is down to Americans inability to pronounce I've, you've etc properly saying I of and you of.
               
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              @Tinkerton surely the term "queer" is now considered non PC - I really can't imagine that the gender querying people would allow it to be used. That aside, as far as I am aware, the word "queer" was applied to homosexuals until the term "gay" took over. That only referred to men tho as the term "lesbian" for women was already in use. The more you look into it, the more confusing it gets. In the majority of cases and in the physical sense only, there is male or female - or at least so far until humans evolve further. Preferences are completely different to my mind. Still got the + to work out tho as every other possibility seems to be covered :biggrin:
               
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              'Queer' is perfectly acceptable usage in the LGBTQ+ community. It's only unacceptable if you aren't a member of the 'group'.

              In similar vein, it is acceptable for young black men - or women - to refer to each other as 'N....r', but under no circumstances is it acceptable for a non-black person to do so.
               
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                Klinefelter and Jacobs Syndromes add to the male/female idea a bit.
                 
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                @Thevictorian and @Philippa It's lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and the + is for anything not covered by those and that they haven't thought of it yet.

                Gay is, I assume, a friendlier, less judgemental way of describing homosexual and the homo part is because it always referred to men. I rather think anyone who feels uncomfortable with and/or afraid of homosexuality aren't afraid of being raped by a lesbian and never found them threatening.

                I can't help thinking that if everyone was kinder and more tolerant of each other and celebrated difference as well as commonality the world would be a happier place for all - the exception being tolerance for criminal and deviant behaviour that harms others in any way be it sexual, social or personal.
                 
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                  Am I right in thinking that Gay stands for Good as You?
                   
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                  Well it meant happy until it was hi jacked.:smile:
                   
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                    That’s very true @pete
                     
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