After Brexit - am I stupid or what?

To be honest with you, Wee Tam I don't think Boris is, in the slightest, thinking about building a bridge from Northern Ireland to Scotland or maybe America!
The cost would be even greater than the HS3 or even the cost of the House of Lords. It's just the Media trying to attach Boris to something that's not going to happen and they have had some success as here we are talking about it and attaching Boris to it

Well, to me, clanless, I think he's "warming" to the idea of finishing the Trade Talks by 31 December because at the start he was saying it was definitely "Sanglant" impossible

 

Maybe you can't think of it because it has already left and the EU have expunged it from our memories!

 

Boris needs to read Harry Harrison's book "A Transatlantic Tunnel, Hurrah!".

Harry Harrison wrote many science fiction books, mainly satirical, humorous or parodies, and his book "Make Room, Make Room!" was altered a lot to make the popular film "Soylent Green". He also wrote a lot of the Flash Gordon stories and even ghost wrote one of "the Saint" novels.

 

To be fair, Sheal only mentioned that a few countries said they 'may' follow suit. Plenty of articles referencing 'sources', 'eurosceptic' etc but rarely a real named person. Some opposition parties have bandied the idea about but it's more just a headline grabber.
Sweden, the Netherlands, Italy, Poland have all been mentioned as being frontrunners to leave but mostly it's just opinion pieces or an MEP trying to garner more power through threats of leaving if the EU doesn't change its ways [to suit them!]. I don;t think anyone here genuinely believes that another EU country is about to announce a referendum, do they? It would make sense to wait and see what the UK gets as a trade deal and how well we function with that for a few years before jumping ship.
It would be good to see the EU changing their ways in light of the UK taking the big step of leaving but I doubt they will.

 

Keir Starmer is sounding off about campaigning for getting freedom of movement back, on the back of the governments plans for immigration. All lovely and frankly I like the concept of free movement however... all he has done is highlight how much of a threat he is not going to be to the tories. Not an original thought in his body.
Same as Sturgeon - the SNP has one thought which is independence and it seems the future labour leader will have a similar thought to go back to the EU cap in hand. I would have thought both parties would be better off tending their own flock and governing the country?

 

Why is it that it has to be "far right groups" that are the people causing the unrest and discontent within the EU. Are those still resentful of the success of this Government, whether you like this Government or not, now inferring that the UK is now "far right"?? Yes, like all other countries the UK does have far right groups, as well as far left, but those as we have seen are given short shrift. What did influence the General Election result was the continuing hostile, sneering, belittling. attitude of the EU over the four years and the exposed ineptitude, self interest, greed, and hate, of those MP's who refused to recognise what their constituents had voted for.
There are a lot of middle of the road" non ruling political groups within the EU's members who would press for leaving if they could but having watched the non elected, controlling beaucratic machine trying to stop the UK from leaving, throwing every barrier that they could, stalling, using every doomsday prophesy that they could to weaken the resolve of those who wanted to carry out the 2016 Referendum result. Again, it appears that BREXIT is responsible for giving "far right groups" hope for leaving the EU. Well, yes it has, but it has also given those other political groups who are not "far right" hope too and the EU is already aware and fearful of that.

Forgive me, but I had a chuckle when I absorbed the above. I think everyone, on both sides of the BREXIT factions knows exactly why no other EU members dare to speak officially about their discontent and desire to leave the EU. Again, it is also well known which countries those are but, of course, those still avid EU supporters will dismiss that as the influence of the "far right". It is well known that Italy tried to, unofficially, approach the EU with ideas of leaving the EU years ago but were threatened with financial destruction by the EU. I don't doubt that the EU would have treated the UK with the same attitude that they did over the last 4 years but fears of other members wanting to leave as well increased the need to make an example of the UK and just how much those in the Euro zone were in the stranglehold of the EU The UK was only financially strong enough to make that break because we have our own independent sovereign currency, had we been in the Euro we would not have had the strength to even hold a democratic election.
But, of course, those who are still EU Believers will think, and tell you, differently.

 

Yeah! But I'm making breakfast so should feel OK soon.

 

Well, that's always been their stance with us remaining in the Customs Union, the EU Courts still having a say in our legal system etc. This Government is shaking it's head in disbelief and asking "What part of BREXIT don't you understand??" I'm still working part time, but I'm starting to find that the EU is now passing an alvalanche of legislation designed, if the indications are correct, to further constrain the remaining members, in what remaining independent decisions they can make, which is making me increase my hours to keep up with, and understand, the flood of EU legislation. They seem to be paying more attention to keeping their members tied than dealing with the Covid 19 problem, it's open borders policy, and lack of financial backup for their members.

 

That used to be 14 days in the "Glass House", Sheal, for such offenders.

 

I have to be blunt, I am getting a bit tired of being called 'far right' (and a lot worse); I was a Labour voter, and Union member for the majority of my working life and considered myself to be a bit left of centre if anything - - but far right? Maybe all those folks that are calling people like me 'far right' are actually 'extreme left' and I am centre or maybe slightly right of centre?

I sure as hell don't have any jack boots, I am not racist, I am not homophobic, I am not a skinhead, I have never done drugs (other than prescription drugs), I don't do street violence.... so yeah, I very much doubt that I am far right.