Solved Is this a dock?

Evening folks
I have these plants growing under a small apple tree they look a like dock plants.
They are perennial but I don't recall
them flowering and have a very deep root they are growing through gravel in a firm clay ground.
It was a very tidy garden when moved in and would guess they are purposely growing.
Are they likely to spread and
any easy ways to get rid of them.
They are in a place difficult to get at and hard to get out
Thanks Ruth

 

Yes Dock..Rumex obtusifolius.
Roots are very deep.
Try to remove all root.
Plan B .....resort to Round up.

Seeds will have blown in and grown.
No one would deliberately plant them.
Make sure you do not let it seed.

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This was a tiny one that I dug up recently.

 

Dock seeds also can be in your soil, they can be there for years and then right conditions will grow

 

Hi,

If you have Nettles around then worth keeping one Dock plant.
Rubbing a Dock leaf on the nettle sting can calm it down.

Its an age old remedy, but like most things these days have to say you should check you are not allergic to Dock leaves and its sap on the skin before doing so.

 

True I have used the dock leaf method many times in the past, this plant has skinnier leaves than the ones Im used too.
Are they perennial? They seem to be in the same place as last year will that big root underneath be a few years old?