Solved Does anyone know what this climber is?

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  1. Andy Manley

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    Hi
    Does anyone know what this climber is? Its my neighbours plant and i thought it was Trachelospermum jasminoides but it has quite differe 20200510_114228.jpg 20200510_114228.jpg 20200510_114146.jpg 20200510_114228.jpg 20200510_114146.jpg 20200510_114228.jpg 20200510_114146.jpg 20200510_114146.jpg 20200510_114146.jpg nt leaves and flowers. The most amazing jasmine scent though. The flowers are off white and quite waxy if that helps??
    The larger mature leaf is about 7cm long.


    Many thanks

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    Sorry for the posting so many repeat pictures
     
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      I agree with Holboellia coriacea, lovely climber, very vigorous, beautiful scent. Fruit is supposed to be edible, never had
      As for the leaves I've just picked the examples below from mine, just finished flowering.
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      trifoliate to quinquefoliate, younger foliage is brighter green, darkening and the venation becomes more obvious as the leaf ages.
       
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        @Silver surfer 's comment about the leaves being trifoliate and what I'd just photographed got me thumbing through The Hillier manual; this states that H coriacea is trifoliate however H latifolia can have three to seven leaflets, but flowers earlier. further digging around brought me to Bean's Trees and Shrubs online http://www.beanstreesandshrubs.org/browse/holboellia/holboellia-coriacea-diels/ which under H coriacea has
        H. latifolia Wall. – This species, a native of the Himalaya, was introduced in 1840. It is a luxuriant climber, which thrives exceedingly well in the southwestern counties, but is not reliably hardly nor so vigorous in colder parts. The flowers are exquisitely fragrant. This species is so closely allied to H. coriacea that it is difficult to find any reliable character by which they may be distinguished botanically, except that in H. coriacea the leaflets appear to be constantly three in number against up to seven, but often only three, in H. latifolia. If the two were to be united, it would be under the name. H. latifolia, which has long priority.

        Neither species fruits freely in this country but might do so more freely if the female flowers were hand-pollinated. The plant of H. latifolia at Dartington Hall, Devon, occasionally bears fruits.

        A little further down
        H. latifolia – A variety of this species is recognised – var. angustifolia (Wall.) Hook. f. & Thorns. (H. angustifolia Wall.), in which the leaflets are narrower than in the typical variety and number seven or nine. The two varieties occur in the same area and, according to Flora of Bhutan, are not separated altitudinally. In H. latifolia (but probably also in some forms of H. coriacea), several corymbose racemes may be produced from a single axil.

        So next year try and remember to hand pollinate the flowers and also have a good look at the flowers.
         
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          Amazing. That's brilliant. Thank you both very much for that. I will pass that on to my neighbour and maybe ask if i can can have a cutting....or two. Its a beautiful scent. Thanks again for your help
           
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