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LATEST MOAN FROM YOU AND ME - 2022

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  1. john558

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    My Grandaughter mainly eats her food with her hands, bless her.
     
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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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        I agree that plastic needs to be eliminated where possible. Wooden cutlery is good but I cannot imagine much other than pizza, hamburgers, hot dogs or wraps that would be pleasant to eat with your hands. Imagine coney fries or poutine without some kind of utensil.
         
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          We've got steel cutlery. After use, we wash it, dry it, and stow it away in a drawer. Then when we next need cutlery, we take it out of the drawer.

          If we eat out, the bar/restaurant usually has metal cutlery. That just disappears after use, but I suspect they do the same as us, but at a larger scale.

          If we're going out for a picnic, we usually take sandwiches and fruit, and if we're at an outdoor event we'll usually grab a hotdog or burger or a tray of chips. We find fingers work perfectly well for such foods.
           
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          • pete

            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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            I had to look them up, dont think I would like soggy chips.:biggrin:
             
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              I had to google those as well, they sound like the curry and chips I had once in a works canteen - I think I could cope with dipping chips into a sauce, perhaps a naan bread would be better using fingers. Is soup is a better example for something you need cutlery for, even then you could drink it out of the bowl.

              I seem to recall there was going to be a ban in the UK on plastic cutlery not sure what happened to that. What surprised me was the number of plastic straws used in the UK, it seems to be a young person thing, not just kids, drinking with straws in a pub. I had to look this up, 4.7 billion plastic straws were used in England every year! I thought young people were eco aware, it seems not.
               
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                I've never seen the point of having plastic utensils. Although it was considered a safety factor when we had school dinners in infants school, and they were washed and re-used.

                Disposable utensils just seem a waste. As has been pointed out, eating with our fingers is possible with a lot of things and metal utensils are used by most people at home. There seems no reason to use a straw for drinking and at our local Indian they now ask people if they want a straw instead of just plonking one in the glass.

                Our local chippy doesn't offer any form of utensil.

                In 2018 we were touring Rajasthan and in most restaurants we ate our curry with our fingers, in the local fashion. They did offer cutlery to the foreigners (not many foreigners in the areas we travelled :rolleyespink:). Most of the restaurants had a spotlessly clean sink in the dining area for you to wash your hands before and after a meal. Most food was served in small bowls on a banana leaf plate. They were small portions but servers came round all the time to top them up if you wanted more. That way there was very little waste of food.
                 
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                  Same here I had to ask Google too!!:dbgrtmb:
                   
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                    I think single use plastic is banned here, I know straws are ... I dislike straws but have a 200ml carton of chocolate milk every morning (I know, but it is for convenience) and they now have horrid little paper straws attached to them.

                    When I was in hospital with e-Coli my meals were served on paper plates and I had plastic cutlery and cups (and the Auxilliary wore a disposable gown, mask and gloves). When I tested clear (after about 5 days) I got real cutlery and china.
                     
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                      I feel an absolute horror at the mere thought of straws..even more so now they have...shudder shudder....I can hardly even speak the word..... reusable ones !!!!:yikes:
                       
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                        I think you only reuse your own one. :biggrin:

                        But never like straws the drink never tastes the same.
                         
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                          While on the subject of plastic, near me there is a large petrochemical works. They make all sorts but their main business is plastic. I worked there for a while and learned a thing or two (my role in IT is to understand where a business is wasting money and help them find efficiency savings). I learned that a certain percentage of the plastic pellets they produce, which go by ship to China to be made into disposable rubbish to be shipped back and sold to us, gets spilled in transit and ends up in the sea and on the beaches. I also learned that they're allowed to leak up to ten tonnes of benzine per year before they have to declare an incident with the environment agency.

                          With all this in mind, imagine how I felt when one of my kids came home from school, in a really good mood because the plastic industry is saving the environment. A representative from the chemical works had been in to give a presentation and talk. Plastic is great for the environment because it's lightweight so is cheap to transport and can be reused many times etc etc. No mention of bringing crude oil from the middle east, wasting about half of it through sludge and other waste products, using so much energy they need their own on site power station to supplement what they buy from the grid, sending plastic pellets by lorry to the port, ship to China, lorries to the factory, more energy used to make it into stuff, ship it back from China etc, and spill a percentage of it on the way.

                          I was fuming. Not at my son, and not even at the rep that came in, but at the school for allowing the kids to be brainwashed without any counter argument. I tried to set the record straight, and I think it worked because now both my kids are like the plastic police.
                           
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                            Passport renewal. Mine expires in October and discovered it's taking 10 weeks currently. So I've filled in the renewal form and taken out a second mortgage for the extortionate fees only to be told I have to send the old one as well. Seems a crazy situation where I will be passportless for 10 weeks. I haven't got any travel plans but my passport is the only photo ID I've got.
                             
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                              Hit and miss John. Neighbours renewed last week and it was returned within 5 days!
                               
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