Large pink rose ID possibilities?

Hi, I admittedly know very little about rose cultivars but have been asked to try and strike some cuttings of this rose in my neighbours garden. The garden is overrun with horse/mares tail and brambles, so we don't want to risk transferring them. I'm ok with the propagation side but have so many roses that I've done for people waiting to bloom already so I can try and id.
He had to go in a home and won't be coming back, so we don't know anything about it and can only speculate. It hadn't been maintained for several years and reached maybe 8ft, before it was cut to the ground last autumn. He had lived in the property since they were built in 1937 to the best of my knowledge and I think it's likely to be a old cultivar from the rest of his garden plants. The flowers are huge, peony sized, I would say and in the photos they are very washed out (my tablet is from 2016 and the camera is awful), being a much more vivid deep pink in real life.

 

Maybe the David Austin website might offer some ideas.

Belle de Crécy

 

Thanks Tidemark, I did look on there before posting and the best, similar, rose I could find there was Gabriel oak

Gabriel Oak®

that one looks like it stats smaller though and I'm not sure if it would necessarily be a rose posh enough for DA.

 

It might be the older HT rose Queen Elizabeth?

 

Peter Beale's site is quite good for referencing, too.
Climbing Roses

 

If it's an old cultivar then you can discount Gabriel Oak' or any of the David Austin bred roses.

Could be the old Boubon rose, 'Mme Isaac Pereire', bred in the 1880s, or as @Tidemark suggests, the Gallica 'Belle de Crecy', which is even older. Or neither!

 

It looks like a hybrid tea rose to me. Perhaps something like Pink Peace (introduced 1959), Prima Ballerina (1958), Wendy Cussons (1959). There were lots of varieties being bred back then - HTs were really popular.

 

Thevictorian doesn't mention perfume which would play quite a big part in IDing a rose.

 

Hi thanks for the replies. I will go through them later. It doesn't matter that much what the cultivar is but it would be nice to give it a possible name.

I've not got a great sense of smell but I can just about smell some perfume. I asked someone else and they said it smelled nice and quite strong. The sniff test was don't early afternoon and it is quite an old flower (I think they smell stronger in the morning don't they? where the perfume is trapped by the petals). The flowers are 6 inches across and I took another couple of dodgy pics. The colour is more representative this time and just to add more confusion, it ight not be an old variety as his neighbour says they were planted perhaps 15 years ago, the older ones were apparently removed.

 

Now it's certainly looking more like a hybrid tea.....

 

Hi @wiseowl sorry I didn't see your post yesterday. I don't want others to spend their valuable time on this as it's not really that important and it seems I may struggle with some of the important clues, like age, which might make it impossible anyway. I was just slightly curious to what it might be but a definitive id isn't really needed because we can just call it Eric's rose, similar to how most of our inherited plants are named.
There have been some nice links and suggestions that I can look at to see if it looks similar to them and that good enough for me.

Thank you everyone.

 

I didn't know petal count was so important but I don't know much about roses in fairness. I had a quick count on this rose and it was hard to get an exact number because a couple looked like they might be split petals but the number was 50 or 52.

So the info I have is the flowers are about 6 inches, the colour is a good representation in the last images, there was a slight perfume using my nose but it was sniffed in the early afternoon on a quite old bloom. Our soil is neutral to alkaline, very sandy and it is growing in a south facing aspect. We thought it was an old cultivar but now we believe it was planted in the last 15 years or so.