Solved What are they????

Hi can someone tell me what plants these are. I think the birds might dropped a seed sometime ago not sure

 

Is the second one a Verbascum?

 

1st - Eryngium
2nd - yes verbascum possibly arctic summer

 

I looked up verbasum and yes it is thanks it's been in the garden for 0ver 4years and never had it grown till now it does look impressive
And the other is Erynigum real thank you

 

Could someone please identify this plant please.

 

It's a verbascum

 

Verbascum

 

Much loved by the mullein moth’s caterpillars. Every year mine get eaten by them but every year they survive to flower again the following year. Beautiful caterpillars and moths.

The Mullein moth and caterpillar Cucullia verbasci | Wildlife Insight

 

After the flamboyance of the caterpillars I've always found the little brown moth a disappointment.

 

You have to find him first…

 

It's not as if they're well camouflaged - here's one I spotted last year finishing off the last of the flowers

 

But the moths are a different matter.

 

Tussock moths are a similar story - astonishing looking caterpillars, moths that you wouldn't even notice. I found a caterpillar when I was a teenager and kept it, fascinated as to what it would turn into. Huge anti-climax!

 

@Escarpment I misread that as 'Tunnock' moths. I thought the blighters were attacking my favourite teacakes and caramel wafers.

 

Thanks everyone