What is this plant?

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  1. shiney

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      We have two Thalictrum aquilegiifolium that grow to different heights each year so don't know whether they are different versions of it.

      One only grows to a maximum of 4ft and flowered in April :scratch: and think that was a lot earlier than usual. It is in full sun.

      The other always grows to at least 7ft (grows higher than the 2m fence alongside) and not starting to show flower yet - which is normal. It is very shaded.
       
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      Aquilegia leaves look similar to Thalictrum, I often confuse them.
       
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        My Thalictrum aquilegiifolium is about 4ft and flowers end of May into start of June.
        THALICTRUM  AQUILEGIIFOLIUM 28-05-2016 14-39-36.JPG
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        Looked on www Quote..

        "The tallest Thalictrum, also known as Meadow Rue, is Thalictrum 'Elin', which can reach heights of 2 to 2.7 meters (6.5 to 9 feet). It is known for its impressive height and the soft lavender-pink, fluffy flowers with creamy-yellow stamens that bloom in summer. "
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        Thalictrum 'Elin' | meadow rue 'Elin' Herbaceous Perennial/RHS

        The flowers are creamier than Thalictrum aquilegiifolium.
        It flowers June-July-August.
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        Quote www.....
        "Thalictrum 'Elin', commonly known as meadow rue, typically flowers in the UK from June to August. It produces lilac flowers with creamy-white stamens on tall stems. The plant is known for its blue-grey foliage, which can be tinged with red in the spring"
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        Quote Cambridge botanic garden.....
        "This lofty selection of meadow rue holds its airy panicles of delicate flowers high above the streamside plantings.

        Comprising approximately 130 species of moisture-loving perennials, the genus Thalictrum occurs throughout the world, with the exception of Australasia, though grows mainly in northern temperate zones. ‘Elin’ is a sterile hybrid raised from a cross between the European and Asian T. flavum var. glaucum, and the Japanese T. rochebrunianum. It is one of the tallest selections of this genus, towering up to 2.5 m in height. Even without flowers this species is striking, having erect, purple-tinged stems which contrast with the blue-green lobed leaflets. The pink flowers, with their cream-yellow stamens, emerge from attractive orbicular buds to provide further contrast."
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        Pics...
        thalictrum elin - Recherche Google



        When yours flower do post pics here so we can see.
        Hope this helps.
         
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          @Silver surfer thanks very much. Yes our big one is Elin.

          I tend to forget names of plants, partly because I'm bad with all names but also because I rely on Mrs Shiney for names of plants and I call her my plant app. :heehee:

          Peoples' names have always been a problem for me and plants come into that category as well. Whereas anything to do with numbers is my forte - although age is beginning to slow that down as well as slowing me down. :whistle:
           
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            I have OCD.... ALL my plants are labelled.
            In Wales we collected plants like other people collect stamps.
            We had 220 Acer sp + Acer palmatum named cultivars, without labels I would never have remembered the names.
            In summer it is OK, but in winter it looks like a cemetery with all the labels.Yuk!

            I buy 5 m lengths of very strong double glazing UPVC beading, cut to required length with secateurs, with stick on dymo labels.
            They do not snap or fade.
            It has worked brilliantly for me for past xxx years.

            Today if someone walking past my now tiny garden and says what is that?
            If I forget I just look underneath the leaves and find the label!

            I also try and take very detailed pics..they are my aide memoire.
            Having OCD..I naturally label every single pic with full latin name and can find any image in seconds.
            That way I know when a plant flowered, how tall it got and when it goes a fab colour in the autumn etc .
             
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              We used to try labelling by just using plant labels stuck in the ground next to the plants but the blackbirds had other ideas. They used to pull up the labels and move them next to other plants! :doh:

              You might like the plants in our garden but almost certainly wouldn't like the disorderly way they are. If anything self seeds or is brought in by the wildlife then it stays unless it is in the way. Our whole garden is a mix of plants and the nice neat trees and shrubs have grown out of hand despite trying to keep them under control. In the 53 years we have been here it has changed from us being in charge to 'Plants Rule, the Shiney's Tend To Them'. :phew:
               
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              @Silver surfer I'm surprised you do well with the dymo labels. I found that they faded. I even bought a printer that was supposedly for garden labels, and they didn't last. Whereas I have occasionally found an old label written with the REALLY permanent pens (before they banned something in the ink) - even though the plant itself has gone to the compost bin in the sky...
               
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              My Dymo machine is an antique..it embosses the tape...about 1980 vintage.
              I bought a whole load of tape very cheaply years ago on e bay..only a few left now.
              Never had probs with fading.
              Sadly Dymo no longer make the embossing machines.
              Birds tend to leave labels alone.
              If sticks are cut too short, then frost heave pushes them out...Lesson learnt I had to cut them longer.
               
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                Oh I remember those machines! They whitened the letters as the plastic was distorted by the embossing. Surprised the plastic does so well. But then, the ancient labels I still have around haven't broken either - whereas some I buy now last only a season.
                 
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                  I have a dymo and have their labels on 5 year old plants that are still clear and intense. Black print on white background. I use it sparingly because the tape is expensive.

                  I use a heavier font now
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                    I try and label things, hand written on plastic labels don't last long either the labels disintegrate or the permanent ink fades, the best results have been with a softish pencil. I don't know what happens to a lot of labels as they just disappear never to be seen again.
                    Some nurseries have good labels that don't fade and I dig these up some years after the plant has gone.
                     
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                      I find labels get obscured quite quickly here with weather. I use Sharpies on anything that's staying indoors for a while - ie early sown seed in pots/trays, and a Chinagraph pencil for them when outside, but that wears away too, so it's not perfect for anything long term potted.
                      Pencil is probably best, and I used to use that, and I'll go back to it when the Chinagraph runs out. I just accept that some pots or sites are guesswork now!
                       
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                      I was so extremely fortunate to get a huge job lot of dymo labels on e bay around 1984.
                      The plastic I buy in 5 m lengths from a wholesale shop in Dundee.
                      It is very strong..used for beading on PVC windows to hide any gaps.

                      This is an example.
                      I bury it in the ground right down to the label.
                      I can tread on them and they do not snap.
                      In old garden some labels were still perfect after 35 years.
                      But in winter it does look horrid.
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                      Dymo still makes an embossing labeller - the Dymo Omega. You can find it on Amazon and Ebay. It doesn't have very good reviews on Amazon though and there are a couple of rival brands that seem better rated. E.g.

                      Amazon.co.uk
                       
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