Latest Moan From You and Me 2025

A lot of very sad and frustrating stories above. One of the reasons I wish they would get their act together on this Assisted Dying Bill. Whilst care is vital to ensure no one is pushed into it, as it stands now, too many boxes to tick which takes too long and can mean more suffering to deal with.
Obviously the Medical profession as a whole tries to keep people healthy and save lives where applicable but there are situations where overseeing or assisting a decent death could also be considered within their ethics.
My sister had an untreatable blood cancer and after 2 years of failing treatment and being fully aware her time was up, she put herself into a local Hospice where she died 2 weeks later. Not a solution available to all and altho she wasn't "helped" to die, she was well looked after to the end.

 

@Philippa Senior SisIL had blood cancer at the end and had all sorts of treatments including drugs to protect her immune system during chemo but found them too debillitating so took herself off the meds and very soon afterwards died of pneumonia, caught in hospital.

I had my new knees done at a centre of excellence about an hour away in Nantes. My admission days coincided with golf competitions at nearby clubs so OH dropped me off, played golf then came to see me. Stayed the night for the 2nd day of golf and another visit then left me to it till he cae to rescue me 2 days later. Operation and post-op care and physio were great but I do get bored in a single room and just French TV and endless nurses/cleaners/physios in and out to check BP and give pain meds at ungoldy hours plus all the rest. Local hospitals not quite as good and keep you for 7 to 10 days which would have me climbing the walls, crutches and all.

Daily nurses' visit at home for blood anticoagulation jabs and dressing changed every 2 days then stitches out. Fancy leg-bending machine at home for initial exercises then 3 sessions a week with a physio. One trip back to Nantes to check bendability and get signed off for driving again.

 

@Obelix-Vendée that's nice to know your experience was a good one ( apart from the boredom bit ). Hopefully there are many more out there

 

For fear of stating the obvious (or being politically incorrect) IMO the NHS problems, the immigration issues and many other global problems are all associated with the same thing - overpopulation. Maybe one day we'll have leaders who're brave enough to even acknowledge it.

 

DITTO DITTO DITTO!!

 

Not just over population @LunarSea. As long as there are countries with huge inequalities in education, opportunity and wealth distribution and/or countries whose population is oppressed by dictators or have religious controls which reduce freedoms then we will have economic and political migrants.

We can't really complain that, after invading/colonising/exploiting mineral and material wealth all over the world, these peoples now see the west as paved with gold or, at least, better than where they are.

More could and should be done to limit the people traffickers' ability to exploit and effectively enslave so many as well as to improve governance elsewhere including widespread corruption at all levels such that it is endemic in some countries. Until life prospects and opportunities improve at home there will always be pressure from people seeking better elsewhere.

 

The biggest problem I have with the assisted dying defence is that people might be pushed into it. I understand that safeguards might be bent a little but the vast majority will just be ending suffering which in inhumane to extend.
A member of our family died of esophagile cancer and they begged my mother to put her out of her misery. My mum was a nurse and has always felt guilty since, even though there was nothing she could do. She said before Shipman, doctors did hasten people's demise and no one thought it was a problem.

The two things that frustrate me most about the assisted dying bill are that people use religion as an excuse, even though our country is no longer religious and people can opt out anyway, but also because they can't see people will end their life far sooner, because they have to do it while they can, rather than suffer a prolonged death.

 

When I was due to have my hip replacement I was offered 3 hospitals. One was 50 miles away and had a 157 week waiting list (no I haven't mistyped that, and you haven't misread it)!. Another was 35 miles away with a long waiting list. My closest option was 3 miles away but still had a 70+ week waiting list. In the end I waited exactly 12 months from the time I saw the consultant just a few weeks after choosing that hospital.

 

I have spent most of the morning and part of the afternoon trying online and via the phone to pay my Lloyds home insurance.
Online it kept rejecting my Lloyds Debit Card.
I did get to speak to a human and paid by the very card that was rejected online. Why oh why

 

I spent nearly an hour trying to order my repeat prescriptions from P2Y, every time after putting in all my details I ended up with "an error occurred", yes a massive error on their stupid app, it happens all the time, I'm fed up with it.
Had to use their website and it worked first time, they need to sort that useless app out or get rid of it IMO.
An E mail will be sent to that effect.

 

Exactly my reason for telling them where to put their so called Green policies, its all pointless all the time you keep reproducing like rabbits.
If anything is unsustainable its world population.

Why call it assisted dying if you have to do it yourself, its crazy, and as you say, people will have to do it before they are totally incapacitated, so you will have to do it before you reach the stage where you have had enough.
The way they are doing this is stupid and I still say that even if the MPs and that other lot of deadbeats, the Lords, pass it, no doctor will do the job.

It will go the same way the Cannabis thing has gone, make it legal to prescribe, but nobody will.

 

If you want to cure overpopulation, you have to cure religious zealotry first. Never gonna happen.

 

Not just religion @ViewAhead. Poorer societies have more children because they need someone to look after them when they become old and infirm. These rates go down when you educate women and provide birth control.

 

I think its mostly just traditional in some countries because they know half of them are going to die before they get out of childhood.
Bit like it was here in Victorian times.

You often see in African countries when they get famine, most of the family looks reasonably well fed but the youngest is skin and bone.

 

Isn't that the point @ViewAhead is making? Some religions don't allow birth control.