Whaaattt?

The term "kicking the can down the street ", sums up what all enquiries are about, it's also a good "job for the boys", keeps their mates in high paid jobs for years.

 

The Grenfell enquiry and the PO fiasco have indeed been very public failures of common sense as well as visiting consequences on the guilty parties but I still don't understand why it took 13 years and up to 200 police in a very quiet enquiry to conclude that the South Yorks police were criminally negligent and dishonest but can't be punished.

One of them went on to become CC at Liverpool - insulting - and got a knighthood. That should go too.

 

So that can kwit their jobs and move on and not be done

 

The covid enquiry has now cost over 100 million. Other countries had a quick enquiry and moved on. Here we go through everything in fine detail, refuel all the pain people suffered during this time and then basically discover what everyone originally thought. No one will ever feel better about the findings and no one will be made accountable.
We should have moved on and spent that money helping people.

 

I do think it was right to confront the main villains in public but agree that it was too little, too late and too long-winded and expensive @Thevictorian.

I also suspect that, as with other enquiries, little will change and lessons will not be learned.

 

I agree............ it's not realistic but the subject does crop up regularly. As you say, how far do you want to go back in history and also how many countries would be involved ? Time and effort would be better spent on what is happening today rather than harking back to the past.

 

Actually, it is worse than that. As I understand it, the enquiry has cost £110 million and the gov has spent a further £100 million preparing its responses.

 

Enquiries in this country drag on because the legal eagles involved will be paid by the hour. They aren't going to want a quick answer.

 

Ed Balls came out with a case this morning on TV, apparently a copper was accused of something, he was then suspended on full pay for three years, handed in his retirement one day before it was decided he had a case to answer for.

The police said they could take no further action as the was now retired.
He was obviously tipped off and told to retire, its the old boy network in action.

 

I reckon that's what Bettison did - got the nod or saw the writing on the wall and retired before he could be punished. I don't think all this adverse publicity exposing his lack of honesty and integrity is enough tho and hope they move to disgrace him further by recalling his knighthood and pension which, for a CC, will be very generous.

I also think public enquiries need to work with time limits on the presentation of defense by public officials, businesses and corporation so they can't hide forever behind armies of expensive legal eagles whilst the victims can't even get legal aid.

 

The police and similar have always retired as soon as they reckon the odds are they'll be dismissed and lose their pension.
It used to be corrupt coppers taking backhanders that would resign to keep the pension and the ill gotten gains.
Now it's more likely to be somebody who's made a pigs ear of something.

 

I know and you know @NigelJ so why don't the powers that be know enough to stop cynical/corrupt/criminal/incompetent coppers bagging a pension after failing to serve as they should. Or are there no coppers honest enough to call it what it is - theft.

 

The top look after one another, in all of these jobs, the PO scandal is probably the most damaging for the ordinary person but in the UK once you arrive at your level of incompetence, you have it made.

The powers that be are part of it.

 

Because they've retired not been dismissed so it is very difficult to remove their pensions, not to say expensive legal and long winded.