Honeysuckle identification….

Hi

I have two honeysuckles. Can anybody tell me if these are the type that flower on old wood from previous year or new wood from current years growth.
The pics were taken on 17th May and it looks like the flowers are just about to open. Not sure.

PLANT 1




PLANT 2




Any advice appreciated

If you can tell then how? Many thanks. P

 

Also. The top one has yellow flowers. The bottom one has pink flowers tbat are slightly bigger.

 

Leaves look as if they have a virus with that yellow speckling.

Slightly bigger than what?

 

Slightly bigger than the first one.

 

And it’s verigated.

 

If it's varigation is it this one?
Japanese Honeysuckle | Lonicera japonica 'Mint Crisp'

 

How big is the first one in mm or in if you prefer.

 

Unfortunately I can’t tell. As it’s not in flower at mo. But I do recall them being smaller than the flowers on the second one. Can you tell from the unopened flower buds in the pictures if it flowers on old wood or new wood? If you zoom in you can see the flower buds. Just about to open. The pics were taken on 17 May. If it is a japonica then it flowers on current years growth. But I am not sure what type either of them are. So can’t prune them till I know. Is it possible to tell by the unopened buds and where they are in the pics?? Based on the date?? As to what type they are? Either late flowering or early flowering and on what years growth.

 

Is the first one the Mint Crisp I suggested above?
You might have to wait until this summer and get photos of open flowers to id them.

 

If they are early summer flowering does that mean they flower on new wood? Growth produced in the current year? If you zoom in the flowers seem to be on new fleshy growth but I am not certain. I think the top one is lonicera japonica (yellow flowers) and the bottom is Lonicera periclymenum (pink flowers) from memory . But not sure. That’s why I am asking. Surely somebody can tell if they flower on old or new wood from the buds in the picture and the date it was taken??

 

Perhaps this can help answer your questions How to grow climbing honeysuckle / RHS Gardening
I'm still trying to "unsee" the variegation on that first one.

 

The first one, will flower early in the year. They are spring flowering for me. You would generally prune if needed after they have flowered.

The second looks like one of the later flowering types that form flowers on the previous years growth. Again pruning after flowering is best unless it's really got our of hand.