Rose losing leaves, autumn or disease!

I am completely new to growing roses and planted a climbing rose this year which seemed to be doing very well, it still has some buds waiting to flower but seems to have lost most of it's leaves now, The leaves are going yellow and have black spots, it is losing them from the bottom up. I sprayed it a few times with Fungus Fighter which is supposed to be for spots on roses etc. The clematis I have next to it also seems to be suffering. Do I need to worry? Will it come back okay next year?

I have another two minture ramblers/climbers in the garden and they seem to be fine.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

EGW x

 

Ellie, basically I think it`s a combination of autumn and black spot. You`ve sprayed with a fungicide so you`ve killed the spores on the plants but what you need to do is pick up the leaves and get rid of them, do not put them in the compost. Next, when the roses are completely dormant give them, and the ground, a drench with Jeyes Fluid of Armillatox (not exceeding the manufacturers dosage) this should get rid of any viable overwintering spores. David.

 

Some of my roses have lost their leaves and there are still roses growing and a few buds still left however not for much longer, i put this down to autum however the leafs did not have any black spots.

 

Correct my spelling meant leaves did not have any black spot ah.

 

Thanks David, I haven't been gettin g rid of the leaves so that's probably where the problem lies. I'll eep removing them then spray with jeyes fluid - any idea the concentration?

 

Ellie it should give the dilution rate on the container, but don`t do it yet, wait until you are certain they are dormant or you could kill them. David.

 

The use of jeys or armilatox as a tar oil is now off label (thanks to the eu) I use around 100ml jeys - 10 litres water.

If your spraying near grass then avoid splashing it as it does scorch.

For black spot I prefer to alternate between Nimrod T (systhane) and wetable sulphur every fortnight during the growing season and sulphur spray once a month in the winter.

 

Evening, Pro Gard.

Perhaps you can advise me. I don't have access to all these brand name products you guys talk about (Nimrod T whatever). I have some Armilatox I brought from England but actually haven't used it here. We can get Roundup for weedkilling but don't like to use it because we have cats.

We have some very good agricultural places here but they do not supply the chemical stuff that is so readily available in the UK, even in places like Tesco!

I use soapy water in a spray bottle for aphids etc and ants but what do I do to get rid of black spot, which my beautiful roses do suffer from?

 

Try sulphur, I buy mine from

www.greenacresdirect.co.uk

Perhaps you could get one of your relatives in england to order some and mail it to you.

As I say I spray every fortnight from bud break to leaf drop and this virtualy prevents blackspot and acts as a tonic.

 

".... Next, when the roses are completely dormant give them, and the ground, a drench with Jeyes Fluid of Armillatox (not exceeding the manufacturers dosage) this should get rid of any viable overwintering spores. David."
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does this mean
Spray the leaves with the Jeyes fluid and then pour remaining where the stem meets the ground or just spray the ground in perhaps a 1 meter circle.

 

Hello LOL .... I would have thought you might be able to get Bordeaux Mixture (bouillie Bordelaise ) in Portugal as it's used to prevent mildew on vines....I use this successfully on our roses to combat black spot ... M-L

 

Billy, when thee plants are dormant they wont have leaves. All I do is mix the disinfectant in a watering can fitted with a fine rose and just water it over the plants and ground. You can use a sprayer if you prefer.