Apple tree fruit - 30 tiny ones and 5 big ones?

Hello nice gardening people ... help me with this if you can please?

I have two apple trees - can anyone explain the following:

Tree 1 - has lots of tiny red apples that are not getting any bigger, and 5 large-ish green apples that are getting bigger but very slowly.
There are some brown rusty spots and yellowing on some of the leaves, but the tree looks generally healthy other than these tiny apples. Position is sunny south facing.

Tree 2 - has no apples other than 4 green apples on one branch. No sign of ill-health on the leaves. Position is shady north facing.

Also the new branches on Tree 1 are growing sidewards and hanging downwards like a weeping willow! Whereas the new branches on Tree 2 are growing upwards!

Sorry for the long post - all I ask is enough apples to make a pie!!

Thanks, KooKoo

 

What variety of apples are they? I would have thought tree no 2 is not in a very good place. They like sun.

 

Hi Geoff

I've no idea - the apples are green at the mo - I suppose I will have to wait until they drop in order to see what variety.

Tree 2 is well established - nearly 2 metres in height - do you think I could transplant it to a sunnier spot?

x

 

I would not bother transplanting a tree that big. No matter how careful you are you would severely damage the roots and they then never seem to recover properly. If it was me I would start with a new one in a better place and s*c*r*a*p that one.
With tree 1 it sounds as though most of the apples are stunted. I wondered whether the pollination was OK. Most varieties of apples need another variety to pollinate them and even the self fertile ones seem to pollinate better with another variety. That is why i was wondering about the varieties.
A largish green apple that is still growing could be a Bramley and that is a triploid ie. it needs pollen from two other varieties to properly pollinate.
If you decided to get new trees then i would use a specialist grower and get them in winter as bare rooted trees. They would be better and cheaper than a garden centre