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  1. PeterS

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    I am so used to dishonest banks and financial organisations with their hidden charges and misleading statements that I was absolutely delighted to receive a letter this morning from the Nat West that was totally honest.

    They were offering me a Black credit card with an annual charge of �£250, and an APR of 50.3% calculated under the Consumer Credit Act regulations. At the top of the letter it said -

    It sure does :D
     
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    Oh come now Peter, the banks are very fair. I had three accounts with one bank and once, the one I used for direct debits got down to �£19 credit without my noticing it. Unfortunately a direct debit was due for �£25. As there is no overdraft facility on this account they refused to pay it and charged me �£45 for the privilige. Then, because there was only �£19 in the account and they couldn't take there �£45 immediately, they charged me a further �£35 for that. When I pointed out that there was a 4 figure sum deposited with them they said that I should have transferred it myself before the DD was due. So not paying out �£6 (presumably because I wasn't good for it) cost me �£80. It also cost, you guessed it, Natwest bank, my custom. All the banks are as bad though.
     
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    Thats ridiculous John. But there are so many horror stories. However I was once told that the customer has no leverage except for closing their bank account. Apparantly all account closures had to be explained to their superiors, and I was told by an assistant bank manager that sometimes under threat of closure they will withdraw charges. But I was told that a long time ago - it may no longer apply.

    I agree with you I would close my account on principle - even if it cost me money. If we all voted with our feet the banks might not be able to behave as they do,
     
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    Actually Peter, I did get a call from the bank saying that 'it was an administrative over-sight' and if I didn't close my account then it would not happen again.

    That made me even more mad. If it was an 'administrative over-sight' then why didn't they immediately return my �£80. When I raised this point they said that although they had been 'slightly over-zealous' they were technically correct, and although they would watch to see it didn't happen again for such a small amount, they were unable to refund at that time. I said that in that case I was technically correct in moving banks and taking my small number of thousands with me.
     
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    Well Done !! Their comment sounds like a fob off.

    I used to work as an accountant in the NHS for a while. I found many of the attitudes and methods on the admin side horrendous after having worked in industry. I had direct contact with patients and had to fend off a lot of complaints of various types. Whilst I genuinely did as much as I could - the catch-all get out clause in a letter of reply was "our system has been changed to ensure it will not happen again" - this was sent out irrespective of what, if anything, had been done.
     
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    I hate those sort of phrases. The one that bugs me is when someone who has ******ed something up uses the phrase "in hindsight" as though that makes it OK then. The next time I see someone who has sent me a letter with that phrase in they better have plenty of vaseline cause I am going to file it in the most appropriate orifice. :mad:
    I have just come back from a meeting where some arsehole tried to use that as an excuse.... Wonder how many of these cuss words will get through.grrr!
     
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    Hi geoff, I go to a lot of those type of meetings. I don't get mad, I just take the p*ss out of them. There is nothing more off-putting in a meeting than having someone burst out laughing when you are trying to make stupid excuses [​IMG] :D . When they ask me what I am laughing at I smile nicely and say that what they just said is number (n) on my silly excuses list [​IMG]

    There are times when other methods work well. I was at a public meeting being held in the Council Chamber of the town hall and there was a presentation being made by the consultants for the council about development plans. I asked a question about something they handn't really considered. The consultant spent five minutes of 'official speak' with his reply and then asked me if that was OK. My very polite reply was "why didn't you say you don't know?" and everyone fell about laughing. :D
     
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    Well I just hate the management speak we get in education nowadays, what I call the organic style of management ie. full of complete bull****. We get these senior managers who go around wearing their smart suits who are about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
    I used to wear a sports jacket and I thought it looked better the saggier and tattier it got - the pockets were always full of pens, notes, confiscated tennis balls, rubber bands (also confiscated), pencils - I kept my phone in the other pocket. Then my wife bought me a dark jacket with matching trousers. The female head then commented on how smart and efficient I looked. She then reeled back in shock when i retorted "stuff that i don't want to look like management, I need some leather arm patches and look like a proper teacher".
     
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    Apart from management speak I can't stand the use of TLAs [​IMG]
     
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    Shiney - I did like your comment. I agree with you that taking the P*ss can be far more effective than getting angry.

    If you are feeling really naughty there are ways of taking the p*ss, is such a fashion that the speaker doesn't realise but everyone else does.
     
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    I take the p*ss all the time. Of course, I've got no friends [​IMG] :D but I enjoy myself [​IMG]
     
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    I'm glad I never take the p*ss. [​IMG]
     
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    :D :D :D - you are not extracting the michael now are you?
     
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    I believe you John! [​IMG] :D :D
     
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