Bulb ID help

OK The first one is Scilla Siberica but any help on the others would be appreciated



the clue here is the drooping habit and the blue stamens in the detail below



But what is this one? It self seeds all over the place and if it weren't so pretty I'd call it a bit of a thug. About 3" tall, it has a white centre and pale yellow, almost white stamens, it has up to 6 blooms per stem and the flowers are upturned and look so bright and jolly in the sunshine.



And also this one which is similar but larger, about 5" tall and the stamens are golden yellow (may be an Agapanthus but doesn't really have a ball shaped head).



The last one has me totally stumped, I think it was made by a commitee :D . The leaves are mottled and look like some tulips or a wild orchid but the flower is reminiscent of a cyclamen gone wrong. The 'bulb' is like a cross between a bulb and a corm with knobbly offsets and is a dark yellow colour.

 

The last one looks like dogs tooth violet so called because the corm/bulb (can't remember which) looks like a dogs canine tooth.
the one before it may be chinodoxia.

 

looking thru' books - last one looks like erythronium evolutum - does it have 6 petals? everyhting looks right, including those leaves! Will keep looking at the other one! Agree, scilla sibirica for the first!

 

Spot on with the last one revin helen :D Thanks!
Cambridge 2000 Gallery: Botanic Garden: Dogs Tooth Violet Erythronium dens-canis

 

2nd one - maybe a chionodoxa?

 

looks like we agree!!

 

I grow erythroniums - they love damp shade. I have a yellow one and a white one. I think the yellow one is often confused - pagoda lilly. But they all have the dog tooth bulb which hates being moved.

 

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. still follwing up the ideas.

I've maybe made an oops with the Erythronium though - I had to move a few last week but I've replanted them, some in a pot and some in another part of the garden so they'll just have to take their chance. They do look Ok so far. I'll have to see if I can get some seed later from the others

 

See the moving hellebores thread, Frogesque - maybe it wasn't a problem moving them after all!!

 

would you mind letting me know how you get on with them after move, I have a big clump that needs dividing.
thanks

 

Never had any bother moving any of the Erythroniums as long as you keep them damp and do not let the roots or bulb dry out. The European one is E. dens-canis and prefers a little more sun than the American ones, of which there are a fair number of species, many almost imposible to get hold of in this country. The most commonly grown and easily got are E. Pagoda and E.White Beauty. They like the same sort of conditions as bluebells and snowdrops by the way.
The second blue bulb is Chionodoxa lucillae by the way.

 

So presumably in the late summer/autumn after they have flowered? and just divide up bulbs.

 

Can move them in the green, but after flowering is better.

 

Thanks

 

Thanks for that, although moved while in flower the Erythronium were planted straight away with no delay so I'm hoping they will be ok even if they don't flower next year.

Thanks also for the info on Chionodoxa lucillae, been looking at it in my RHS book but not a good enough pic to be sure about it. I've also found a common (American?) name for it - Snow Glory - which is rather apt.