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Mulch sheet for veg bed?

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by tavyabe, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. tavyabe

    tavyabe Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi all, I am a complete newbie but have decided that I want to use my garden to grow as much food as I can! While in the garden centre I saw some rolls of 'mulch sheets' which looked like a roll of breathable plastic which claims to prevent weeds but still allow the soil to breath and water to get it. I was wondering whether it is good or bad to use such sheets in a vegetable bed as it is appealing as it would save weeding time and look tidy but if it is going to have a negative effect on my vegetables or soil then I don't want to use it.

    (having done some research I think I mean membrane not mulch?, but I still can't find out whether or not i should use it on a veg bed?)

    Can anyone advise me on this please?

    Many thanks
     
  2. NewGardener

    NewGardener Gardener

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    You'd have to either lay it between the veg rows, and still weed where the membrane doesn't cover, or cover the area, cut holes in it, and then plant through it. I wouldn't personally, I'd rather do weeding. Not only that, it's one less hiding place for slugs etc.
     
  3. tavyabe

    tavyabe Apprentice Gardener

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    If I was to do it I would cover the whole thing and cut holes to plant through. Good point on place for slugs etc to hide. does it have any effect on the quality of soil or vegetables produced or is it no different to how it would be without it?
     
  4. NewGardener

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    I would imagine it depends on the quality of the membrane. I couldn't really tell you a definate, but I know that I wouldn't use them. I'd make my own mulch from garden waste, although it takes a while for it to be useable, it's the most eco-friendly way of doing it :)
     
  5. Lovage

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    I grow in beds rather than rows accross the plot and find the weed supressing membrane usefull for the larger veg at wider spacing such as squash, courgettes, sweetcorn etc. I make a slit trench around the edge of the bed with a spade then push the membrane in and tighten on the opposite side.
    I covered these beds a few weeks ago after spring cultivation now I just have to plant. I lift again at the end of the season to dig and manure but no weeding all year is a real plus. I have not found any increase in slug population with membrane
     
  6. NewGardener

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    Well, thats me proved wrong :( I dug a border, and stacked soil and grass to have a raised bed, and covered that with weed membrane, and had plenty slugs when I came to move a bit for the greenhouse flooring :(
     
  7. loopy lou

    loopy lou Gardener

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    i wouldnt use it

    my neighbour at the lottie used some for her strawberries and found mice hiding under it

    loopy
     
  8. tavyabe

    tavyabe Apprentice Gardener

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    But surely that is down to not installing it properly. If it is tight and pegged down all round I can't see how mice would get it (plus our cat would see to them!!)
     
  9. Dave W

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    I've used the perforated plastic on my brassica beds for the past few years. It works very well - keeps weeds down and also keeps moisture in.

    This was taken about 4 weeks ago - the end of season sprouts.
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  10. NewbieGreen

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    pegged down or not, mice can get anywhere.

    Dave, they look amazing btw!!!!
     
  11. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

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    Like Dave, I have been using the membrane for years. It is easy to work with and I have had no problems at all. I must have bought it at least 7 or 8 years ago and it still looks as good as new.

    Mine covers an area of about 800 sq ft and I bought a complete roll of it at 2 metres wide (got 40% discount for buying the whole roll and sold some off to friends). I made my own pins to hold it down with out of very heavy duty wire but using bricks is much easier :).

    There is no weeding necessary throughout the season and in the winter I just roll it back, dig it over, remove the very few perennial weeds that manage to grow (mainly bindweed that grows in a very stunted fashion), dig in compost and roll it back.

    Yes, we do get some slugs under the membrane, but not a lot, and you can put slug pellets under the membrane (not in the exposed soil areas where you plant your veg). This also means that you don't have to worry about the birds or pets getting the slug pellets.

    To plant the veg I cut a large X (about 5" on each diagonal) and fold the four triangular pieces you end up with under the membrane. If you want to use slug pellets you push some of them under the membrane around the holes and then fold back the triangles.

    Apart from not needing to weed all season you now have membrane covering where you walk so don't walk on it in dirty boots and it will remain spotless :thumb:. This also means that you can go out and pick veg, even in wet and muddy conditions, in ordinary shoes.

    We grow brassicas, butternut squash, courgettes, tomatoes, runner beans, sweetcorn etc through it. You can also grow potatoes through it and you don't have to do so much earthing up as the light is kept out by the membrane. To pick the spuds you just roll back the membrane, take off the larger spuds (the soil won't be very muddy so you can move it around carefully with your hands) and leave the small ones to continue growing.

    If there is not much rain and the veg need watering you can either use a sprinkler (the water will soak through the membrane) or just water through the holes that the veg is planted.

    No, I don't have shares in the membrane company :hehe:. I just need to make life easier as I have a big garden and I'm not getting any younger :old:.


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  12. tavyabe

    tavyabe Apprentice Gardener

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    Thanks everyone. Dave - those sprouts look great, hopefully mine will grow that well too!. Shiney - that looks great (membrane and garden!).

    I am almost decided now but one last thing, someone has suggested to me that it may have a bad effect on root vegetables - do any of you have experience of this?
     
  13. shiney

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    The only root veg that I have grown under it are the potatoes. I've never bothered for the others as they grow as individual plants - one veg per plant - so it doesn't seem worth bothering. The membrane would be all holes and no membrane :hehe:
     
  14. Dave W

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    Great for leeks - saves a heck of a lot of fiddly weeding.
    I make holes by heating a bit of alloy tube with a blowlamp. Nice and neat and the holes won't tear. This sheet is fabric not plastic.
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  15. NewbieGreen

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    is that an electic fence down the left side dave? :eek:
     
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