Mystery trees in Bulgaria

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  1. Martin Holst

    Martin Holst Apprentice Gardener

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    Hiya

    Just returned from a holiday on the Black Sea coast of Bulgaria and would like some help id-ing these two (photos attached). One I call the 'broad bean tree', an acacia perhaps that I am not familiar with. The other has a spiny, pendulous, willowy appearance. The fruits become dark, the leaves are alternate and not very hairy.

    Any help greatly appreciated.

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    First one looks like russian Olive to me
    Elaeagnus Angustifolia.

    The second looks very like honey locust,
    Gleditsia Triacanthos.
     
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    I don't think anyone will argue with you Pete.:)
     
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    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Oh go on strongy, thats what this place needs.:D
     
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    I'll argue with you, Pete.... But what's the good of it when we all know that you're right.:hehe: Actually, I was hoping that someone would identify these two trees. :thmb:
     
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    Not looking for an argument as such strawman, more like a bit more disscussion.:D

    But I think that might be a bit of a taboo subject.:flag:

    BTW, this thread keeps dissappearing, then reappearing:wink:
     
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    hallo - karaman here,

    there are a lot of those trees in bulgaria with the long bean-type fruit. Are they edible? - only i've seen something similar in germany sold in a greengrocer's so i bought some to try it but all i can remember is it was very hard and nearly broke my teeth. In hungary this edible variety is called st. john's bread. My guess is the bulgarian variety is not edible or in Bulgaria they would have been harvested as soon as....!

    anyone know any more?

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    :wink: Wouldn't argue with you Pete... But................. What about the Anchovey Pear (Grias cauliflora), evergreen tree of the family Lecythidaceae, native to the West Indies originally. The tree is cultivated for its edible fruit. The plant grows to about 15 metres (50 feet) tall and bears spear-shaped, glossy leaves about 90 cm (35 inches) long that are produced in tufts at the ends of the branches. The fragrant yellow flowers are about 5 cm (2 inches) across. The fruit, which contains one seed, is pear-shaped, russet brown, 5–7 cm (2–3 inches) long, and rich in vitamin C.
    :scratch: Just a thought.... :scratch:
     
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    Marley, I don't think a tree native to the Windies (tropical) would be able to grow in Bulgaria they have harsher winters than here and I think it would only survive here under glass. Just my thoughts.:)
     
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    You are probably right strongy It was just the similarity in fruits that really got me... Forgot we were talking Bolivia.....:scratch:
     
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    Have I missed something here, Bolivia????

    Must admit I've never heard of an anchovey pear tree Marley, it sounds a bit fishy to me, but I'll look it up.:gnthb:
     
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    Bulgaria Marley, not Bolivia:):flag:
     
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    :dh: Oh good grief Strongy & Pete, whatever is the matter with me & this thread...!!! :dh: I shall now bow out gracefully before I get something else wrong..... :dh: Doh.. I cant believe I got it wrong twice..... :dh: My apologies all.... :flag: A senior moment perhaps..... :hehe:
     
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