How dispicable is this?

A bloke has been bragging about fruadulently getting Tamiflu prescriptions via the new flue service, and then sellingTamiflue at car boot sales:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article...boot_fairs&in_article_id=711007&in_page_id=34

Isn't this just outrageous on so many levels?

Firstly, he is taking up the time of those involved in the service, time that would be better spent on people with genuine concerns.

Then there's the fact that supplies going to this idiot are not going to people who need them. What if someone who needed the medicine missed out because someone else has been leaching off the supply.

Then there's the fact that he is selling stuff to the public that has already been paid for by the public, via their tax and NI contributions.

 

Its also illegal to sell pharmaceuticals unless you are registered so with any luck he will b having his collar felt. His call and phobe number will be recorded.

 

Despicable yes. But as one comment to that news story said "Only an idiot buys drugs from a car-boot sale". Very true.

I cannot understand this panic over swine flu. Oh hang on, yes I can. It's mostly media driven. Bad stories like this sell newspapers.

Wonder how many of those who called up the helpline don't really have swine flu, but perhaps only a bad summer cold or are just stocking up for the future. In many way doing the latter is just as bad.

 

I understand people's concern about swine flu, although it is blown all out of proportion by the media, but the media only do that because they know we like a good panic from time to time. For those of us with very young kids it is a worry, a highly contagious and potentially fatal disease is not a good mix for kids so young their immune system is still not developed.

That said, who in their right mind would take prescription drugs without having consulted a doctor first? People will though, and some people will, as mentioned, stock up for the future, potentially using out of date medicine at some point.

So what we have hear is someone breaking the law to exploit public paranoia, while at the same time taking resources away from those that might actually need them. He's a bit of a loony anyway, because if I saw someone selling the stuff at a car boot sale, I'd be straight on to the police and I'd hang around so I could watch with pleasure as he gets arrested and taken away.

 

I find it hard to understand why they don't issue as per NHS number-that way only one dose is issued to one person. Typical backwards bureaucracy allowing this sort of thing to occur in the first bloody place. How much does the NHS pay for administration? It can't do one simple thing such as tick a number off a list-pathetic.

People will always take advantage of an inept system, it isn't right but it shouldn't be so easy.

 

Disgusting story!

Well done lolli, you've hit the nail on the head! Why don't you e-mail your suggestion to No. 10. I thought it was a stupid way to go about diagnosing and treating it when I first heard about it. What a bunch of ****** run this country. It never ends.

cheers

 

This was posted on another website I belong to. It was sent to a member there by a homeopath (who are generally dead against vaccinations anyway)

THE SWINE FLU INJECTION
now being prepared for mass injection into infants, children, teens and adults has never been tested and won't be tested before the injections begin. In Europe, where flu vaccines are typically tested on hundreds (or thousands) of people before being unleashed on the masses, the European Medicines Agency is allowing companies to skip the testing process entirely.

Yet, amazingly, people are lining up to take the vaccine, absent of any safety testing whatsoever. When the National Institutes of Health in the U.S. announced a swine flu immunisation trial beginning in early August, it was inundated with phone calls and emails from people desperate to play the role of human guinea pigs. The power of fear to herd sheep into vaccine injections is simply amazing...

Back in Europe, of course, everybody gets to be a guinea pig since no testing will be done on the vaccine at all. Even worse, the European vaccines will be using adjuvants -- chemicals used to multiply the potency of the active ingredients in vaccines.

Notably, there is absolutely no safety data on the use of adjuvants in infants and expectant mothers -- the two groups being most aggressively targeted by the swine flu vaccine pushers. This leads to the disturbing conclusion that the swine flu vaccine could be a modern medical disaster. It's untested and un-tried. Its ingredients are potentially quite dangerous, and the adjuvants being used in the European vaccines are suspected of causing neurological disorders. Paralyzed by vaccines:

Depending upon your age you might recall that in 1976, a failed swine flu vaccine caused irreparable damage to the nervous systems of hundreds of people, paralyzing many. Medical doctors gave the problem a name, of course, to make it sound like they knew what they were talking about: Guillain-Barre syndrome. (Notably, they never called it "Toxic Vaccine Syndrome" because that would be too informative. As an aside Holland now recognises the damage from childhood vaccines in “PVS” (post vaccine syndrome) But the fact remains that doctors never knew how the vaccines caused these severe problems, and if the same event played out today, all the doctors and vaccine pushers would undoubtedly deny any link between the vaccines and paralysis altogether.


Eight things you're not supposed to know about the swine flu vaccine (At least, not by anyone in authority... or you are cynical)

#1 - The vaccine production was "rushed" and the vaccine has never been tested on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for pharmaceutical companies? If so, line up for your swine flu vaccine this asap…
#2 - Swine flu immunisation contains dangerous adjuvants that cause an inflammatory response in the body. This is why they are suspected of causing autism and other neurological disorders.
#3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine.
#4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so many people. And that means they really have no clue whether the upcoming vaccine might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're not testing it, either...)
#5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete immunity against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket immunity, drug companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because they only get paid based on quantity, not safety (zero liability).
#6 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of swine flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if you don't get the jab -- because it's all paid by the taxpayers.
#7 - When people start dying in larger numbers from the swine flu, rest assured that many of them will be the very people who got the swine flu vaccine. Doctors will explain this away with their typical Big Pharma logic: "The number saved is far greater than the number lost." Of course, the number "saved" is entirely fictional... imaginary...
(much of the above is from Health Ranger, USA)

Personally, I've never availed of the ordinary flu vaccine and I didn't intend to take the swine flu one, even before reading this.

 

All good points Aaron, although I'm always a bit sceptical about articles that give a strong, one sided view.

One thing that can't be disputed is that the vaccine is being rushed through without proper testing. I won't be taking it, nor will my son, and hopefully not the wife if I have anything to do with it.

It just seems so illogical to me. There is a disease which we know is potentially fatal, but we can put an approximate figure to that risk and it is very small, even if you catch the disease in the first place, or there is some untested medicine that we can have injected into our bloodstream, with no idea of the risk. Its kind of like saying to someone if you cross the road there is a small risk that you'll be killed, but if you take this gun which contains an unknown number of bullets in it - it may be empty or it may be full, or there may be one live round half way down the magazine - point it at your head and pull the trigger, you might not die and it might somehow prevent you from getting run over.

 

I know, I know, homeopaths are very anti-vaccinations (when I was seeing one, she even was even against me getting jabs if I went somewhere that it is recommended to get them - suggesting homeopathic remedies instead!).

Just remember that ordinary flu kills many people every year and we don't get media hysteria every winter because of that. Swine Flu is an excellent way to sell newspapers. We were on our cruise when the story first broke in Mexico and because we weren't exposed to wall-to-wall news reports it largely passed us by. Wait until a better story comes along (another expenses scandal?) and the flue panic will be dropped quicker than a hot potato.

 

clueless. Who would take pres. drugs without seeing a Dr.?, well I do. When I go to the Med. countries I always get a course of Pennicllin to treat tooth absecces (sorry about the spelling!). The dentists give you that straight away. Trying to get an appt. with a dentist is problematic, where I live!! Nobody is particularly worried about this type of flu. The worry is that if it mutates, like the 1918/20 strain. Then it gets serious. What is really scary is that the g'vent has said "its out of control and we can't do anything". What happens when we get a lethal strain? I thought that this bug would have given the G'ment a chance to show what it would do in a serious scenario. Well, now we know. The politcos will dive for cover in their bunkers (originally designed for nuclear war) and tell the rest of us, "it's up to you". Don't laugh, you guys voted for a politician in the last election!!

 

I'm afraid this sort of thing is very widespread, especially in the homeless community, where prescribed meds are regularly sold on the street, which is why so many patients return to the GP several times a day for repeat scripts. It used to happen in the No Fixed Abode surgery where I wored, all the doctors and nurses knew what was hapenning, but it was impossible to prove.
As for his wasting of taxpayers' time and money, since most chemical medications are at best a waste of time, I suppose the biggest losers are the mugs who buy the stuff from him at the boot sales.

 

I have a bad cold been ill for a few days now but i wouldnt consider ringing nhs helpline as i think its just a summer cold not swine flu

 

But Rosa, that's because you're from the north east. Up our end of the country it it is the norm to go out boozing in jeans and t-shirt even if its hail stoning and blowing a gail straight off the sea

 

My son had the Tamiflu last week. On calling to make an appointment with the doctor as was suggested when we picked up the Tamiflu, it was over a week before he could get in to see him! I advised he'd take the tamiflu, and if symptoms got worse, then we would book an appt. (and if alot worse, would've been seen quicker). The main difference between a summer cold and the suspected swine flu was his sudden and very high fever. Everybody else in the house has had a mild infection of some sort, but Jay's was serious enough that he didn't fly home to Canada to see family for the summer as he does each year. If he could've, he would've faked being just fine just to get on the flight - but couldn't have faked it if he wanted to.
Buying any pharmaceuticals from a joe bloggs in a boot fair - well, I wonder if it is even Tamiflu he is selling them?
I do like the idea (don't know why NHS didn't think of it) of having NHS numbers checked off as to who received it - but we did have to show ID for the patient and for the person picking it up at the pharmacy.....how does he get around that? Also, where we are, there are only three pharmacies (and small ones, not large ones) where I could've picked it up for him. Wonder if there's involvement on the part of the pharmacy as well?