Help Cutting back.

Need a little advice cutting back these too plants, one is differently a rose the other....... well I don't really know what it is. But they are both far to big for were they are and I could do with a little help with them

A: How and when can I cut them back also can I split them
or
C: can they be moved.

As they are they take far to much of the path.






cheers

 

I can't work out what the first one is Hurfs, a close up of the foliage would be appreciated please.
The second one may well be a climbing rose. We have a forum for Roses and the link below will give you guidance on pruning.
http://gardenerscorner.co.uk/forum/threads/pruning-of-the-rose-family-reference-sheet.10915/

There is no reason why you shouldn't move both the plants but it's not going to be easy digging them out so close to the house. Unfortunately you can't split them.

 

Thanks Sheal, Hope this helps to ID it.

 

Chaenomeles japonica aka Quince.
As hard to move as the rose, but you can cut it back as hard as you choose.

 

Many thanks Palustris.

 

If you can, you could put wires along the wall and tie in the growth from the shrubs so that they make narrow plants rather than wipe spreading ones. We have a Chaenomeles which is treated like that. Any growths which come out forwards are cut off and sideways growing ones are tied in to the wires. Since I detest roses, we do not actually have any in the garden so cannot advise on how you do that with them.