Are "the powers that be" about to wake up.

Just read this http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080916/tuk-eu-population-britain-a7ad41d.html

I think we knew it, but its nice to have it confirmed.

Perhaps we can now get somewhere without the "do gooders" shouting "racialist".

 

What are we supposed to do though? I watched a documentary a while ago (The Poles are coming). The reporter interviewed a load of chavs as they left the job centre after signing on. The chavs were asked their opinion about the immigrants, and we heard the usual replies (They come over here and take our jobs). The reporter asked what sort of work they were looking for, the chavs said they'd anything but they couldn't get a job because the immigrants had got them all. The reporter then told them he knows a farmer who needs labourers asap, and will pay £7.50 per hour (ie above minimum wage) and the chavs wouldn't go.

So, on one hand, yes we need to do something to tackle the UK population boom, but we shouldn't be too quick to blame the immigrants.

 

Think I would struggle a bit on £7.50 an hour.

But I do take your point, basically wages are too low and we have too many hand outs to the long term unemployed who dont intend working.

 

I'm a bit confused, Immigrants or Migrants? are the statistics refering to immigrants who come here to work and live here permanently or migrants who work and live here for a short term and return home. It does make a diference to the population numbers if you include or exclude one of them.

 

Yep it always confuses me as well, migrant workers/ immigrants.

I guess when it comes down to housing and traffic , general overcrowding and strain on the system it doesn't matter much either way.

We are just living on top of one another.

 

I wouldn't be happy with £7.50 per hour neither, but if I was unemployed (I think it is about £50 per week they get) I'd jump at the chance to earn £7.50 an hour. If they want more, they can always go to college or get an apprenticeship/trainee role and build themselves a career that pays more. The only downside is that whether you work for £7.50 an hour, or work to build a career that pays better, you have to work. The migrants are happy to work, but many of our countrymen are not so keen.

 

£7.50 an hour? Would love to see that. As I get less than that, guess that makes me a migrant worker. Well, I guess I migrate. I migrate between home and work:D:D
What planet are you guys on.:cnfs:

 

I'm a bit confused. Getting £7.50 an hour doesn't make you a migrant worker. I mentioned that in this documentary, the reporter had found a job that paid £7.50 an hour (to anyone that was willing and able to do the job), and many of our own fellow british unemployed folks refused to do it, so the migrants had to do it because the farmer couldn't find anyone else that would do it.

 

Sorry, clueless just my sense of humour Would like to know what you classify a "chav" as. I always thought they were a group of guys who were working and dressed and behavied in outlandish fashion. Never thought of them as being unemployed.:cnfs:

 

Chavs can be employed (some are), I don't think the term refers to their employment status. It just so happens that the guys that the reporter spoke to as they left the job centre looked like chavs (white nikes, baseball caps, argos jewellery etc).

 

It depends on your position, a young school leaver could probably do well on £7.50, but to someone paying a mortgage with kids it a non starter.

There will always be those that dont want to work, but there are many trapped between getting a job and claiming benefits.
The farmers are always relying on cheap overseas labour, its become an acccepted fact, in this world of competition.

I just dont think its a living wage, if its the only wage coming in.
The migrants can take it as they tend to only be here tempory and can even send money back home.


Caj, you must be doing a lot of overtime in order to make ends meet.

 

But the other side of the coin is that the employer may not be able to afford to pay more. This raises the whole thing about the minimum wage. On one hand, maybe it should be raised, but if doing so means that companies have to lay people off because they can't pay them then nobody wins. I have freinds that manage on minimum wage, and pay rent for their homes and pay their bills. Of course it does depend to some extent where you are. £7.50 per hour in parts of the south east is worth nothing at all, but it is still more than the dole in the case of young single men (the people that featured in the documentary).

 

Hi Pete (super mod, can't find a bowing down Smiley:D)
Kids have all left home, low mortgage but I don't need a new carpet evey year, I don't need a new car every couple of years,I don't have to have decking in the garden. While the G'ment pays out Tax credits to low paid workers etc. then wages for us peasants will stay low. Why are my taxes (on a low income) being used to subsidise companies that can afford to pay more?

 

b-0 Caj we have new smilies on GC :D

 

Giz us a job, Tesco pay £6.50 per hour.s00k