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Eh, Eh, AA

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by ARMANDII, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    I've been with the AA [no, not Alcohol Anonymous, Ziggy] for some years but I hate them just assuming that I'm going to automatically stay a member at the end of the yearly contract.
    A couple of years ago they automatically renewed my membership, upgraded my services and requirements sticking on seemingly everything they could and then extracted nearly £400 out of my account without even informing me. I only found out when checking my Bank Statements and obviously I was not best pleased. I rang them, told them to return the money as I hadn't agreed to the renewal or the upgrade. They apologised, but didn't have a good explanation as to why they upgraded my membership or why they hadn't informed me. My car insurance also included Roadside Assistance so I left the AA for a year. I rejoined them last year on a very good deal and the promise that I would renew, if I wanted to, the contract this year and that they would not to assume I would automatically renew which they promised faithfully wouldn't happen.
    Today I received a letter saying that they'd renewed my membership for next month and taken money out of my account. So I rang them or at least tried to because here's the interesting bit. When I rang them and got the Options it was "press 3 if you want to leave the AA", so I pressed 3 and got a long winded burble out products and that I was being put through. Then I got "We're very sorry but all our operators are busy, would you please call back" Since I wasn't very happy I thought "what the Hell" and redialled them and when the Option came up for Joining the AA came up I pressed it........and got a operator immediately!!!
    So I've cancelled my automatic renew and they transferred the money then and there back into my account. But it goes to show the other practices that organisations use, i.e. if a member wants to leave it gets shunted aside with a call back later response and should a person want to join they get answered immediately. I won't be going back to the AA.:heehee:
     
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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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      Unfortunately I think most companies seem to work like this these days.
      I'm now with the RAC, they do at least inform me before taking the money, I think you need to make that clear when you join.

      I was with the AA for years, but they, for some reason cant remember what just now, peed me off, so I left.
      It was just before they went public, or some such thing, consequently I missed out on few hundred quid payout.

      I find insurance companies do similar renewals, but I do usually get a notice a month or so before they take the money.
       
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      Well, that's my point, Pete, I did get an emphatic promise from the AA that the contract would end without being automatically renewed. They failed to keep that promise and yet again removed money from my account and then informed me. They'd be quick enough to contact me if they thought I was in the wrong, of that I'm sure. I've never had any trouble with Car Insurance as I always get a letter from them saying the contract is due to end, would I like to renew, and a quote. So why can't the AA do that, they'd keep more members that way.:coffee:
       
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      The situation you describe, Armandii, about trying to leave is exactly what I experienced when trying to leave Vodaphone. I had no argument with Vodaphone, I'd just got a better deal elsewhere. Its sad that they only time I got annoyed at them (and I'd had reason to speak to them on a couple of occasions) was when I was trying to leave them.

      As for the AA, I nearly joined them once. I was a passenger in a car when we had a minor accident on the motorway. We hit some debris and smashed the two nearside wheels and bent in the suspension - the driver was able to limp the car off the nearest junction and then we found a payphone. We were miles from home, so it only made sense to have the car recovered. I phone the AA first. They said it would be £192 because the car was already in need of recovery at the time of joining. Reluctantly I agreed. I told them where we were, and they replied no we can't be there, there's no such street. I was staring at the street sign, there was an address in the payphone, the postal district was on the street signs, and I know which junction we'd just come off, yet the place didn't exist to the AA. So I told them I was no longer interested. I phoned the RAC, they said it would be £90, got our coordinates within seconds from once I told them what I could see, and were there within half an hour.

      Since then I've been with Green Flag, and sacked them because I had to tell the 'mechanic' how to test for likely faults and how to fix my car. He'd dismissed it as a very, very expensive fault, I told him to check various sensors, pointed to them under the bonnet, and told him how to check them. I even told him I'd have done the job myself if I hadn't left my tools at home. So I switched back to the RAC. I needed the breakdown truck once more since then to date. Coolant pump failure meant the car had to retire in some random unknown place just off the main road. It was all so sudden I didn't get chance to note what junction I'd came off. It took about 5 minutes for the RAC to work out where I was, and then they were there in about 40 minutes. They were well organised, they took the car to my choice of garage and then even offered me a lift home from the garage. I said no thanks cos I was near my mam's and I thought I may as well call in for a brew while I was there.
       
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        gcc3663 Knackered Grandad trying to keep up with a 4yr old

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        A few years ago my Daughter went to work at CERN in Geneva.
        Whilst there she bought a car as a run-around.
        Because she was abroad and was nervous she decided to join the AA.
        She applied on line and they sent the documents out to her home address in Geneva.
        At the end of her 12 months placement she was coming home and I went out to help her and drive back with her.
        Half way through France the water pump ceased and screwed the engine.
        We contacted the AA for assistance and were told that they had not been informed she would be using the car in Europe and wasn't covered.
        We were advised to get back to England and then we could be helped once we arrived at Dover.
        I hired a car to get to the Ferry, crossed overnight and waited at Dover until the office opened. We then contacted the AA again to get us home.
        They advised us that as we had left the car in France we were not elegible for assistance.
        I had to hire another car to get home.
        First job. Cancel the AA cover.
        When she was asked why she wanted to cancel, she described the issue and the operator just said "OK. I'll cancel it immediately"
        No offer of recompence or attempts to dissuade the request. Basically it was - just go!
        We then had the problem of reclaiming money owed for the unused part year of fee paid - which we eventually got after much argument.

        I personally wouldn't give the AA the time of day. I was with Green Flag for a few years and they seemed OK, but until there is a real issue you never know!

        Rant over!
         
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          Huh. Green Flag left me to wait, alone, on the M69, at midnight for an hour. So much for lone female priority. Apparently it's 1 hour from when their operative gets the call, not an hour from when you make the call. Could be two very different things!

          RAC, too pricey. So that leaves the AA, as long as you don't give them your direct debit details.
           
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          They are all the same, and even almost double the price for the renewal
          My latest last month went from £80 a year, To the special offer of £12 a month
          or two years paid upfront for £275
          I am now with Greenflag free inclusive with my bank account, but they do not do
          home start, or bring you home

          The virgin media package is the same as all others, IF you want to BUY there is no wait time and several operators to take your call, CANCEL and all operators are busy please hold you are in a queue of 58 and the approximate time is one hour ten minutes please hold
          Sad but I did hold all that time listening to "Everythings gonna be alright Everythings gonna be OK" On a loop tape

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          I've never had a problem with the AA.

          However, a better deal came up with the RAC via an employee package: so, that's who I'm with now.
           
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          Try ringing "Sky" when you have a problem, same thing no one answers the phone , same as you Armandii rang the "New Customer" yes you guest it picked up after two rings , but "sorry Sir I cant help you with that" please dial ****** .

          All these Companies have bargain offers for NEW Customers, but never have anything for existing customers they maybe have had for years.

          We all get lazy or forget when we have to renew as so many Companies just automatically "do it for you" I shop around and if I have to change I do, yes its time consuming and confusing at times but hey a £££ saved we can spend on the garden :snork:.


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            You get the same problem with insurance renewals.
            There is no loyalty bonus - just a laziness penalty.

            I really loathe and resent the time I have to spend phoning round to get a fair quote, and if it turns out to be underwritten by the same company that gave me a whopping renewal quote I'm steaming.

            Even worse when they ask you to tell them your lowest offer so far, and then mysteriously find another "discount" just to bag your custom.

            There must be some sort of mass consumer protest that could be staged to put a stop to it. Any ideas?
             
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              If you let them renew automatically they will take advantage of you, same goes for all the Utility/Insurance companies, they don’t value customer loyalty any more.

              It’s good to check Martin Lewis’ site when renewing.

              For many years we have used his recommended £38 “Fully Comp” cover via Autoaid. It covers me and Mrs JWK personally no matter which car we are driving (or passenger in). It covers “At Home” and “Onward Transport”. It is “Pay & Reclaim” which puts many people off, but we have never had any problems, the few times we have broken down they have rescued us very quickly, we pay there and then with a credit card and Autoaid subsequently send us a cheque for the full amount when we post them the bills.

              If you still want to use the AA then Martin Lewis says the cheapest AA Basic cover is £12 (after cashback from Quidco).


              http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/insurance/roadside-recovery
               
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              When I started driving (seems like a hell of a long time ago now) my lovely mum bought me a year's membership with the AA, and I continued it for a few years after that until I simply couldn't afford to renew it one year and that was that. To be fair to them, I had to call them out a few times back then (I had a Volvo that I think was created by Satan), and they were always very good with me.

              Roll forward a good few years, and I decided that it would be prudent to get an AA membership before heading off on a journey from London to Scotland to also tour Scotland for a couple of weeks - just in case, as our daughter was only a tiddler back then, and the thought of having to get oily and faff about if something went wrong didn't really appeal.

              So, I got onto the AA who quoted £149 for a year (Home Start, Recovery, Relay, Roadside) - - and that was if I gave them automatic renewal on my credit card; if I wasn't willing to allow automatic renewal at the end of the year, it was £189! Apparently, a year's money wasn't good enough for them, so I deduced that they didn't want my business.

              So, I called the RAC and checked with them - £169 for similar cover; bit steep.

              A quick search on the net threw up a few other options, most of which were similarly stupidly priced - however, when I tried one (Aviva) the quote was much better at £62 for the same level of cover as I had been looking for, so I went for it - better still, I put it on monthly direct debit which admittedly does auto-renew, and actually costs me an extra couple of quid for the pleasure (with a letter sent each year before renewal in case I wish to cancel), so I now have the princely sum of £5.65 taken from my bank every month for my breakdown cover, and have been with them for years now - in fact, the price had drifted up by a few pennies over the years (I think it reached the heady heights of £6.70 at one point), but last year it was reduced back to £5.65. I am quite happy to stay a loyal customer when I am getting a decent deal like this.

              Whenever I have phoned them to change car details or address details, the service has been swift and without fuss, and even the breakdown service itself seems to be absolutely fine (only used it once when the plastic undertray fell off my car on the M25, and getting under a car on the M25 is not even an option); to be fair, I expect the breakdown engineers to be good if I ever need them again - - - as it turns out, its the RAC that come out, as Aviva OWN the RAC!
               
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              Blimey, he calls the RAC out when his ashtray falls off, that takes a bit of a brass neck, I thought.........until I read it properly.

              Great money-saving tip there, FC. I also think you get better value if you ask for discounts when phoning them, for example quoting union membership might get you a tenner off. The other way to get good value is to sign up when they're touting for business at booths in service stations etc, but you'd have to hand over your DD details.
               
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              Some years ago I had the company car fully covered by the AA

              It was the night of the company Christmas do ( I used to cover 93k a year) the car was three months old
              We set off and got half way to the venue when zilch nothing broken down on the hard shoulder
              Called the AA, who turned up in about thirty minutes, sorry Gov, I will have to take you where you want to go, to get it fixed

              I thought err Crimbo do, Take me to my work address, Which he did
              We then got a taxi to the do
              Overnight stay which was inclusive anyway
              Next morning at breakfast a colleague giving us a lift back to the office, Then we had to think of how to get home
              The guy who took us said lets have a look, Adjusted the points that were SHUT, and we drove home no problem, and it ran fine for the next 45k miles DUH :-(

              Jack McH
               
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                My car broke down late this afternoon; called Mr Mum - he called RAC - RAC called me - arrived after about 20 minutes. Fixed the problem, then escorted me much of the way home. :dancy:

                Thank you Mr RAC :dbgrtmb: (only complaint? It was brass monkies out there and Mr RAC could have offered me a seat in his warm cosy van while I waited for him to fix mine - after all, I'd already been stood in the cold for more than 40 minutes, while various calls had taken place, and I only had a cardi on :oops: )
                 
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