External hard drive

Discussion in 'Computer Corner' started by pete, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. shiney

    shiney President, Grumpy Old Men's Club Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2006
    Messages:
    67,336
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired - Last Century!!!
    Location:
    Herts/Essex border. Zone 8b
    Ratings:
    +134,297
    I'm definitely not a 'computer' person like the others but had to 'upgrade' things on my computer recently.

    I had more RAM put in, a new larger internal hard drive to use as my main C drive, kept the old hard drive (now D) for backup and have an external hard drive as well - which I use for backup. These didn't cost much and I had a professional do all the work, including getting me up and running again with the backup software all set up. He only charged me £50 for his labour which included backing everything up first, taking the computer away, reloading my software, bringing it back and making sure I could understand what he'd done.

    He told me that it's good to be a bit paranoid about backing up and he has set the backup software to do a mirror image of my hard drive and put it on D drive and do a data backup on the external drive. This leaves my new C drive for the computer to use. It does all this automatically every day :dbgrtmb:

    As prices of hardware seem to get cheaper all the time the others on here can give you an idea of the costs. They can also say whether what I have had done is worth your while.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Aesculus

      Aesculus Bureaucrat 34 (Admin)

      Joined:
      Apr 30, 2008
      Messages:
      4,327
      Gender:
      Male
      Occupation:
      Cashier
      Location:
      Isle of Wight
      Ratings:
      +1,337
      as others have said if you like XP don't think you need to upgrade as Microsoft would like you to believe, WIndows Vista was a dreadful OS at the best of times and I think Windows 7 is going to become the new XP (in the sense of stability and user ability) but microsft I believe has pledged updates long into 2014:what: and I doubt veyr much that software vendors are going to stop supporting XP any time soon.
       
      • Like Like x 2
      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

        Joined:
        Jan 9, 2005
        Messages:
        56,539
        Gender:
        Male
        Occupation:
        Retired
        Location:
        Mid Kent
        Ratings:
        +110,494
        A good lot of advice, thanks everyone.
        Well I now have another question.

        I'm thinking of going down the external hard drive route.

        Would it be best to hang on, and wait till after Christmas?

        Or do the prices of these kind of things remain fairly constant.
         
      • JWK

        JWK Gardener Staff Member

        Joined:
        Jun 3, 2008
        Messages:
        34,069
        Gender:
        Male
        Location:
        Surrey
        Ratings:
        +54,127
        Hard disk prices have actually gone up since the floods in thailand, someone told me they had at least doubled. As I understand it prices are starting to come back down again, so the longer you wait the cheaper they will get. I'd wait till the new year sales, PC World usually have some loss leaders on New Year's day IIRC.
         
        • Like Like x 1
        • Dave W

          Dave W Total Gardener

          Joined:
          Feb 6, 2006
          Messages:
          6,143
          Gender:
          Male
          Occupation:
          Anything I fancy and can afford!
          Location:
          Tay Valley
          Ratings:
          +3,035
          Prices are very unlikely to go UP Pete and as with all computer technology, in the long term the price will fall. If you are not in a great hurry I'd be tempted to hang on and see if any of the big high street shops has a sale before or just after Christmas. I Don't think you'll save a fortune as 500 gig external drives are currently about £60.
           
          • Like Like x 2
          • gcc3663

            gcc3663 Knackered Grandad trying to keep up with a 4yr old

            Joined:
            May 6, 2011
            Messages:
            3,860
            Gender:
            Male
            Location:
            North Tyneside/South Northumberland
            Ratings:
            +1,663
            When you make your enquiry try to include a Caddy. It's a neater package than the free-standing system and much more portable.
             
          • watergarden

            watergarden have left the forum because...i'm a sad case

            Joined:
            Jan 14, 2007
            Messages:
            946
            Ratings:
            +549
            You could always buy an internal hard drive and plug it in, several clips on you tube showing you how. But yes, an external one is even easier.

            I have to agree with moving the important stuff over, such as pictures, as they take up a lot of space, and when the computer dies, you still have them, or if you are really sad, you can take the external disc to a friends, plug it in, and show them your pictures.

            I have xp and an external drive that I copy stuff to (when I remember)
             
          • pete

            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

            Joined:
            Jan 9, 2005
            Messages:
            56,539
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired
            Location:
            Mid Kent
            Ratings:
            +110,494
            Sorry, dont play golf gc.

            Explain please:)
             
          • Aesculus

            Aesculus Bureaucrat 34 (Admin)

            Joined:
            Apr 30, 2008
            Messages:
            4,327
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Cashier
            Location:
            Isle of Wight
            Ratings:
            +1,337
            I believe gcc3663 is referring to the fact that you can purchase internal PC drives and then install them into an external enclosure for use via USB.

            One thing to bear in mind is that if a drive is described as a 3.5" external hard drive then it will usually need to be plugged into a wall socket for extra power unlike 2.5" which can draw enough power from the single USB port (as long as it's USB 2.0 otherwise it will require 2 USB Ports) as well as one being bigger than the other:dbgrtmb:
             
          • gcc3663

            gcc3663 Knackered Grandad trying to keep up with a 4yr old

            Joined:
            May 6, 2011
            Messages:
            3,860
            Gender:
            Male
            Location:
            North Tyneside/South Northumberland
            Ratings:
            +1,663
            Good response Aesculus.
            I got the impression Pete was thinking of a Laptop.

            That being the case the 2.5" HD, supplied in a Caddy, is less problematic than buying seperately and fixing together at home.

            As you say if a PC is the aim then the 3.5" HD with external power would be required.

            Thanks for clarifying.:thumbsup:
             
          • watergarden

            watergarden have left the forum because...i'm a sad case

            Joined:
            Jan 14, 2007
            Messages:
            946
            Ratings:
            +549
            [​IMG]

            The vertical metal lump is an internal hard drive.
            The black box thing is some where to plug it into so your computer can read it.


            or may be he meant

            [​IMG]

            This mounts in the front of your pc, and lets you take the hard drive out
             
          • pete

            pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

            Joined:
            Jan 9, 2005
            Messages:
            56,539
            Gender:
            Male
            Occupation:
            Retired
            Location:
            Mid Kent
            Ratings:
            +110,494
            OK.
            I think I get the message, I dont spend much time looking at this kind of stuff, so what is available is a bit beyond me.

            But I'm getting there
            :)
             
            • Like Like x 1
            • clueless1

              clueless1 member... yep, that's what I am:)

              Joined:
              Jan 8, 2008
              Messages:
              17,778
              Gender:
              Male
              Location:
              Here
              Ratings:
              +19,601
              Computer gear is a bit like commodities, in that the prices fluctuate based on all sorts of factors, but on average the prices do go down steadily.

              I had a quick look at a supplier I've used before. I found this:

              Affordable 1tb External Hard Drives, USB Hard Drives | Ebuyer.com

              To be honest, although it makes a lot of sense to get an internal one, and it is very easy to fit one, I wouldn't advise someone to do that unless they were comfortable with some of the terminology.

              Over the years the standards have changed several times. A 6 year old machine could be using SATA or IDE. Unless you know which, you could end up buying an incompatible drive. You wont have that problem with an external drive because it will just connect via USB.
               
              • Like Like x 2
              • pete

                pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

                Joined:
                Jan 9, 2005
                Messages:
                56,539
                Gender:
                Male
                Occupation:
                Retired
                Location:
                Mid Kent
                Ratings:
                +110,494
                I've found one that says its USB3, how do I find out what USB I have:o
                 
              • clueless1

                clueless1 member... yep, that's what I am:)

                Joined:
                Jan 8, 2008
                Messages:
                17,778
                Gender:
                Male
                Location:
                Here
                Ratings:
                +19,601
                Most likely you'll have USB 2. Its not a problem though. A USB 3 device will work with USB 2 (or USB 1). The standard is designed to be backward compatible, so you can mix and match USB versions without problems, ie if your machine had USB 3, it would happily work with a USB 1 or 2 device too.

                All it means is that the speed of data transfer will be limited to the lowest version between the two, so if your machine is USB 2, and you plug in the USB 3 hard disk, you'll only get USB 2 transfer speed. Again, not really a problem, USB 2 is fast enough for most uses.
                 
              Loading...

              Share This Page

              1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
                By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
                Dismiss Notice