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  1. sweetkitten

    sweetkitten Apprentice Gardener

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    hi , i moved into a new place last may.. there was a tree type thing ready for the bin, so i rescued it :) Last May to sept it looked kind of sad, just one long stem on each branch with a 1 oval leaf on it, this year it looks completely different .. does anyone know what it is and how i should look after it, im no way in any shape or form green fingered but really like this lonely little tree :)

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    Agree, looks like Ash..
     
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    Hi sweetkitten, yes an Ash, but it looks very close to a wall... Ash trees grow into huge trees.. So they need to be well away from walls & drains etc. because of their roots... They are not really trees for small gardens tbh, but you could do what a friend has done with one.. It has been in the same 12" ceramic pot all it's life & it is now 16yrs old & a 5ft Bonsai.. :D She keeps it very well watered & fed in the summer so it doesn't stress & is a great looking tree,, You could try that, but I certainly wouldn't leave it that close to a wall..... :help:
     
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    I also think it is ash. In which case you need to get rid of it pretty sharpish.

    Not only are they dangerous to buildings but they are difficult to dig out.

    The over cautious insurance companies use this chart:-

    Safe Distances

    Distance from House (m)
    Oak 30
    Elm 30
    Hawthorn 12
    Ash 21
    Sycamore 17
    Birch 10
    Maple 20
    Popular 35
    Willow 40
    Cyprus 20
    Rowan 11
    Magnolia 5
    Walnut 14
    Laburnum 9
    Horse Chestnut 23
    Beech 15
    Plane 22

    The more generally accepted distances are:-

    Willow 18m
    Poplar 20m
    Oak 18m
    Elm 19m
    Horse Chestnut 15m
    Ash 10m
    Maple 9-12m (depending on species)
    Cyprus 2.5m
    Lime 11m
    Beech 9m
    Plane 10m
    Robinia 8.5m
    Birch 4m
    Cherry 3m
    Rowan 5m

    The damage and the need for these distances ONLY applies to shrinkable clay soils. Non-shrinkable soils can have the trees nearer but I don't know by how much.
     
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    Definitely Ash, rip it out and bin it.:dbgrtmb:
     
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    You can see from the chart that it is at least 30ft to close :heehee:.

    The other problem with ash is that the seeds grow like mad. If you have an ash tree then you will have seedlings popping up by the hundred - and they are not easy to get out.

    Dai has put it very succintly. :dbgrtmb:
     
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    awww it looks so lonely though.. it is in a pot,forgot to mention that .. can i keep it please lol
     
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    If it's in a pot you can keep it with no trouble but be careful about the roots. They will easily go through the bottom of the pot and into the ground. Turn the pot over at least every three months and cut off any root they may try to come through the bottom.

    Seems a bit of a waste of time as it is a very boring tree for a pot and it is already too big to bonsai. Ash is quite fast growing so it will just get leggy but won't reach the normal 90ft high, 60 ft spread and 12ft circumference.
     
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    thanks for all the replies :) Its the first time i have ever kept anything alive, if i was too take it and bin it.. would you recommend anything thats nice and easy to maintain to replace it .. its only a yard facing east i think as it only gets sun till midday
     
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    If it is what I think it is, it grows at a supersonic speed.
     
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    If you want a tree in a pot go for a grafted, Japanese Maple.:dbgrtmb:
     
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    thanks for all the advice, much appreciated :D
     
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    If you can find one, there are some lovely flowering cherries on dwarf root stock, I got one 10 years ago that was about 1ft tall, it's been in the same pot ever since and has grown about 10" and its a picture of health, it had more flowers this year than ever...
     
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