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    Armed response unit not messing about - a warning to anyone else who might think about doing something similar. Good work by the Met. old bill.
     
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    • ARMANDII

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      Most of these idiots don't seem to care about living, clanless, only in doing as much damage as they can, with as much publicity that they can, before dying for whatever cause they think is worth dying for.:wallbanging:
       
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        Unfortunately there are two members of the public dead and some others injured. :sad:
         
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        • ARMANDII

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          Yes, my heart sank at that news, not only for the dead, but their families.

          It brought to my mind the Lord of the Kings in which King Theodon said...

          "So much death, what can man do against such reckless hate?."
           
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            @ARMANDII I agree that there are too many brainwashed fools who believe that this life is only a stepping stone to an existence that is much better and the rewards will be commensurate with how much evil they can wreak.

            I now understand why people's heads were mounted on pikes as a reminder to others, that what they did brings only public shame and they will not go onto the next life as a whole. Barbaric but the response would fit the crime.
             
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            • pete

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              They, the police, appeared to drag the member of the public off him and then just shot him at close range, well that's how it looked.
              If they did I',m sure there will be a massive enquiry, going on for months looking to blame someone.

              Personally if you do that kind of thing you have it coming, however it happens.
               
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                That sounds like you think the Police man shot the guy in a "casual" manner, pete:dunno:
                According to later reports, it appears the "Terrorist" pulled back his coat in the struggle to reveal what looked like a Suicide Vest. When the Policeman saw that he dragged off the member of public telling him and the surrounding people to get away as they could be killed by the bomb and then, to prevent the possibility of the bomb going off, he shot him. That is standard procedure much discussed and approved by the Security Forces.:dunno:
                 
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                • pete

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                  Well, I didn't say it was "casual", but the bloke was on the ground when he was shot.

                  Hey, I'm not defending the terrorist, he deserved what he got, I'm just saying there will be the bleeding hearts wringing out their wet hankies over this poor gullible fool.

                  He must have been "radicalised", probably due to the bad society he was forced to live in.
                  He would have been a good person at heart.;)
                  If you get my meaning.
                   
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                    On the floor, standing up, sitting on a chair.......he was wearing what looked like a suicide vest so he got shot.:dunno:
                     
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                      And there won't be a lengthy trial so hopefully the saved money will go to tracking down whoever put him up to it or aided him. They run in packs. Like rats.
                       
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                        One report stated, it was a City of London officer that shot him.
                         
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                          These sad people want to nurse their partner who was diagnosed with Cancer and watch her take her very last breath. Life is so precious to normal people.
                           
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                            I value and respect life and hold it sacred. In a way I feel sorry that some individuals who set themselves up as terrorist. What has happened to their brains, their former love and affection for fellow man. Not only terrorist but day to day ordinary individuals. Sadly I have seen cases where partners, married couples etc have suddenly turned love into hate. In the case of terrorist IMHO, they have waged war on others. Perhaps on the spot justice is the best.

                            As always. There are those left behind. For these the memories never leave them. Even the lawman. I had a mate who was a FAO (Firearms Officer) He took out a terrorist at the time Yvonne a police woman was shot in London. He suffered a lot afterwards. Nightmares and medical problems, especially uncontrollable bowel movements.

                            Another local friend. He had served in the SAS. He has sad memories of ending other human lives. He, even to this day will say. I/he will never forget the look in the eyes of his victim.
                             
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                              Well, as far as I am concerned the people that made the decision to let this guy out on licence with a tag should collectively be charged with manslaughter and ABH.
                               
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                                Well, unfortunately, nobody really made a decision to let him out on licence. The policy is to that, these days, prisoners only serve half their sentence and, if well behaved, are automatically released on licence. Obviously, in his case, he waited for his licence biding his time, and then went out to kill who ever he could. A lot of Prison related (Do Gooder) organisations are able to decide policies on Prisons and Prison release without proper Government supervision. The Parole Board ran into trouble when they decided to put the Taxi Rapist on parole and the Government stepped in due to the massive protests, took away the Parole Board's powers to release people without that decision being questioned, and the man stayed in prison.
                                In this case, the Parole Board was very quick to point out that they were not consulted on the release of this man, due to him being released on Licence, which they have nothing to do with.
                                It is now being looked at, too late as usual, to see if the licencing policy needs amending to make sure people convicted of Terrorist acts should serve their full sentences.
                                This is going ensure a real tightening up of prison release policies and more supervision by the Government and the abolishing of a lot of "well meaning" prison committees. This has been a problem for both Judges and Police who have long criticised jail sentences being halved automatically after a person has been sentenced.
                                 
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