Solved Polygonatum multiflorum or ??

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  1. Fof

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    See today, 03/05/24, Glendurgan Gardens, Cornwall.
    I believe there are 2 native spp and garden hybrids, plus 60+ spp globally..
    Any chance of IDing which this might be?

    TIA

    Fof
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    Looks fairly short [ compared to mine ] so might be Polygonatum odoratum.
     
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        Eeeck.
        For years I have been trying to get to grips with the UK Polygonatum.
        I used to grow many different sp.
        POLYGONATUM

        Apparently the id tip for Polygonatum multiflorum...
        ID checklist (your specimen should have these features)...Check the stems - terete or ridged?

        Your stem appears round but you need to check it .
         
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          I'm a Philistine - I just call mine Solomon's Seal :whistle:
           
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            I'm the same @shiney - mine is just S.Seal. :smile:
            I'm aware of different varieties, but I've only ever had the 'common' one. That one does look different though.
             
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            I'll have to check the stems on mine. :)
             
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            @Silver surfer I've just checked all our plants and all the dozens of stems have just a single ridge. does that make them x hybridum? :scratch:
             
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            This is mine, unfortunately I don't know which it is, and as others if anyone asks me what it is I tell them it's a Solomon's seal. What I can tell you from experience is it's very resilient, I had loads of caterpillars on it last year which I later found out were sawfly and they stripped every single leaf so I thought it was a gonna but no it's grown again.
             

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            I checked mine yesterday after reading this thread - smooth round stems. Nowhere near as far on as the others shown though.

            We don't seem to get the sawflies here @mazambo -which is handy, but they do decimate the plants. Glad yours has come back ok. I'm not sure you can do much to prevent them devouring your plant though - other than picking them off when you see them. Perhaps others may have a solution for you.
             
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              Probably not; there are well over 60 species "Plants of the World" recognises 80+ species names.
              Crug Farm (North Wales) has a large number of species and varieties on it's list.
              I have several different species of Polygonatum and relatives and most of them are like Solomon's . seal in appearance.
              I planted out the ones I have in a new area and am waiting to see what has survived, there are still some labels, but others have been pulled out or just vanished. The only two I can guarantee id'ing are P curvistylum small purple flowers on dark stems and P vietnamicum reddish whorls of flowers and v long stems. Unfortunately I bought two plants labelled as this last year and one is the species, the other no idea, but very different.
               
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              Thanks guys.
              As I suspected, a taxonomic nightmare, so I'll just file as Polygonatum spp.
              @Silver surfer. I knew that there were a multitude of species, but never realised that they were so varied. Thanks for the link.
               
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