U.F.O's.

If anyone's interested in this. Try http://physorg.com/news114114533.html

 

Very interesting cajary. I note that one USAAF pilot reported an encounter with a UFO when he was stationed at Woodbridge, Suffolk, and there have often been sightings of UFOs in Norfolk but they are always 'explained away' but seemingly never investigated or perhaps we are not informed of the findings!

And we had a UFO reported over NORWICH in June this year!

Another bit that interested me in that link was the fact that ocean circulation is changing and therefore could be contributing to global warming i.e. global warming is a natural phenomenon and it will happen whatever we do.

QUOTE: "A team of NASA and university scientists has detected an ongoing reversal in Arctic Ocean circulation triggered by atmospheric circulation changes that vary on decade-long time scales. The results suggest not all the large changes seen in Arctic climate in recent years are a result of long-term trends associated with global warming."

BTW - what are your views on UFOs?

 

yep its only what we all know there up there but wont land due to the taxes and the goverment in this country, they just hover over garages to get a glimpse of our fuel charges and who can blame them. they be mad to ever land

 

I think there are too many cynics to have a sensible discussion on this.

 

we all know life is up there somewhere.. but never going to get the answers we require unless we find one in our own back garden as the goverment only seems to hush any proof we get. but one day it will all come out

 

Not at all. I firmly believe that a superior civilisation from at least 4.5 light years away (the nearest star, assuming it's got life supporting planets) shoots over here regularly to the third rock from the sun and after traveling all that way can't even be bothered to stop off and say 'Hi'.

Of course they do occasionally hop out of there saucers, trample a couple of corn fields and then hop back in to fly off to the next inhabited solar system, where presumably they repeat the exercise. In view of that evidence, who could be a cynic?

 

No one has proved to me that there are not life forms on other planets, but to believe that a civilisation has evolved at roughly the same time as our own on a planet many millions of light years away and has devised a method of covering those tremendous distances, and just happened to stumble on earth, which would be like finding a needle in a billion haystacks ( only infinately more difficult)...can anyone remember how to do probabilities?

 

I am sure that there are intelligent lifeforms out there somewhere - there are just so many galaxies and stars, and we know that planets are very common around other stars. But I think it most unlikely that any have visited earth.

The whole concept of flying saucers has been recently revealed as intentional misinformation by the US government to protect its own research during the cold war. The US did make some saucers that flew in the early search for Stealth technology - but they were not very efficient. The work, based at Area 51 in Nevada, then went on to create the Stealth aircraft that we now know about. The CIA actually started the first UFO supporters association to cover up sightings of their aircraft and to mislead the Russians about their research.

 

I like to be very open minded on this subject but maybe that's just because I'm a child of the 60's!

I remember a strange encounter a few years back when we were travelling back late at night from Skegness.
We passed a field with strange moving lights that was going around in tight circles making a weird buzzing noise and no it wasn't a farmer catching up on some field work!

I got so excited I asked Bob to go towards the lights to try and find out what it was.....we went down a lonely country lane and got quite a suprise as there was a police car watching the strange lights too.

My UFO was nothing more than a little drunk guy having some fun on his moped in the middle of a field!

But even after the above event I think it would be very ignorant of us to believe that 'we' are the only intelligent lifeforms in existence but saying that the drunk in the field was so far from being called intelligent! :D
Helen.xxx.

 

Agree with PeterS, I have travelled the country lanes in the middle of the night for many years when I worked shifts seen many phenomena that can be explained, I would think anyone with a vivid imagination would put all kinds of interpretations on them.

 

Terrier. I seem to remember something called the chi squared test being used to test validity of data. Blowed if I can remember how to use it though. I think the general consensus is that there must be other intelligent life in this, very nearly infinite, universe but they are not visiting us in flying saucers. Unexplained phenomena of that nature are nothing to do with aliens, or the next best thing to an alien, my eldest grandson.

 

Sarraceniac, as we are talking of the probabilities of ET life forms finding us over great distances within a relatively short time span I think the Poisson distribution method might be more suitable. Of course, all life forms on Earth originated in the great expanse of space and I'm sure that all the building blocks were not all concentrated on our pooliverse.BTW, why do you say our universe is "very nearly infinite?". Just wondered.

 

hello all, it's me again!

first of all let me say that i am not into sci-fi, ghosts, supernatural or anything. i don't actually believe in any of them, but in a way i would like to.

had an experience with a 'physicic' (sorry can't spell the name - anyway, someone came round to a friends house and had us all seperately in a room). she told me certain things that were 'uncanny', but also 'fished' & said things that were rubbish. so what to believe?

the other thing - and quite scary too, even now - was that i was driving home one night from Bournemouth to Southampton, after a night out with ex, we'd been to fish & chip shop after night at the disco (oh, how we used to live :D ) my boyfriend was asleep next to me, and i saw what i thought was a motorbike light coming up in the other lane (2 lanes, not motorways in those days), i saw it come up, go out as to pass, get in the blind spot & then it disappeared. i said out loud "come on then" expecting it to appear on my side. it didn't. i was so shocked i shouted. ex woke up & i was shaking, it was like a movie and no, we didn't take drugs or anything. he was so uneased because he knew i wasn't like that. that is still with me now. i even told my dad, he said it was probably a bike on a hill. i told you we weren't like that! totally flat road.

i don't know what it was but as i say i still don't believe in the 'supernatural'.

i think too that et's would pass us by!

cheers

sandra

 

Hi all, sorry to bring this up again - after my last post i noticed no one replied! i'm not a freak honest.

anyway, i watched a programme that must have been the one that PeterS saw. i was shocked, for a few minutes anyway. it could seem that ufo's seen were a form of a new flying 'plane' from the USA or Russia. i think that's right - Russia. anyway, they were doing loads of secret flying and it was easier/more secret, for them to say it was UFO's. Who to believe?

From what i saw, it never 'took off' there's a pun! but who knows what's there for when the time comes.

anyway, i'm really suprised that more people haven't commented on this, so i guess it must be a less common thing than we think.

Cheers

 

Originally posted by Jake Spear:

I think that not many people would argue with old Jake that unexplained things do happen borrowers. Most people I think do believe that although they are unexplained, they do have a logical, physical explanation (see 'Face in the snow') if only we knew what it was. Oh and sorry to use the phil.. word again, I know there are some GC members who are allergic to it. Why I don't know, another unexplained phenomenon. :D :D