Replace Grapevine with Seedless variety ?

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  1. Perki

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    I am having a think about replacing my Black Hamburg grape vine. Its doing well and its productive but I just can't get used to 3 to 5+ seeds in each grape I am finding it very annoying , the result is I eat half a bunch and throw the rest in the compost bin around 20 bunches . Kind of feel bad replacing a perfectly healthy plant , its does have a good ornamental appearance in the GH , not 100% sure I want to replace it yet.

    So any recommendations for a potential new seedless grapevine - desert -indoor variety ? I've had a look around and seen one called Vanessa which looks a good fit.
     
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    I tend to like the ones that have a bit of muscat type flavour, so I have Lakemont, it was a disaster this year though due to some kind of pest.

    Also have a small Flame, that was also attacked, but has a couple of bunches, first ones for me on that plant.

    These are outside, the Lakemont was quite good last year.

    There are those newer varieties and probably worth a try, I 'd look for something with a good flavour, always thought Black Hamburg was a bit short on taste and really a wine grape, but I know they sell it as a dual purpose vine.
     
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      Lakemont is the only seedless variety this specialist nursery feels able to recommend as suitable for growing in the UK: Lakemont Seedless Grape Vines - Chris Bowers

      I have here a Fragola or Strawberry Grape https://www.chrisbowers.co.uk/product/grape-fragola/ which I planted last year, it has not fruited yet but is an attractive vine which has settled in and grown well. This is a musk grape and as the name suggests the fruits are meant to taste a bit like strawberries! We shall see.....
       
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        Deacons Nursery also have Canadice and Interlaken which are white seedless, or Himrod which they recommend
         
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        So @Perki ....

        Any update on your plans for replacement?

        I myself am a proud owner of a "Vanessa" which survived -20°C surprisingly well. Since I planted last year, I haven't had the chance to taste them yet though...
         
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        I did replace it last Winter/Spring with Lakemont , no grapes its to early yet for them but I may let one bunch form this year if it does try and produce even though its not recommended . I am hoping its come through the winter ok no life in it yet but it should be fine.
         
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        Am thinking of getting a grape vine for the greenhouse. We’ve previously grown Black Hamburg’s but found them quite bland and very seedy, grew prolifically.

        We’re open to red or white but would prefer a seedless, any recommendations and updates on varieties?
         
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        Atleast I'm glad to hear someone else thinks black hamburg is bland and seedy.

        I've never thought much of it other than something to make a few bottles of plonk out of.
        If you want a tasty one I would suggest any you can find that have a muscat type flavour.
         
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