Glyphosate adjuvants and bamboo

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  1. Howard Stone

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    I am using glyphosate to get rid of a clump of rhizomatous spreading bamboo. I am in London, I make the pesticide by mixing concentrate with hard tap water. Should I use an adjuvant? Which one?
     
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    I've seen the use of a couple of drops of washing up liquid per litre suggested for weeds such as ivy. Apparently it helps the liquid adhere to the leaves. Whether it would help with bamboo I'm afraid I don't know.
     
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      A couple of drops/litre of washing up liquid may help and certainly won't harm. Washing up liquid is a wetting agent so should help make it 'stick' to the leaves easier.
      It may also help to trample on the bamboo first before spraying. The glyphosate can enter the plant where injured.
       
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        Mix wallpaper paste with glyphosate is recommended but never tried it and no idea of the ratio. I just kept digging the stuff up. Also Rosate 360 is recommended but no idea what that is.
         
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        Rosate 360 is a glyphosate concentrate containing 360 g/L glyphosate, needs diluting 25 mL to 1 L for perennial weeds.
        Mixing with wallpaper paste is to get an alternative to glyphosate gel; dilute glyphosate to normal strength and then use to make up wallpaper paste to normal consistency.
         
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          I mix Rosate 360 with wallpaper paste to create a gel - it works well.
          I got a 90g pack of wallpaper paste. Mix 10ml of Rosate 360 with 500ml water then stir in 5g (one teaspoon) of wallpaper paste to make a thick gel.
          Use a brush to paint the gel onto leaves. Very handy for perennial weeds in lawns.

          Rosate 360 is a strong form of glyphosate that contains 360g of glyphosate per litre.
          I believe it's the strongest form available to the public.
          Any glyphosate that has 360 in the name is the same - Rosate is just a brand which I don't see any longer.
           
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            Available for purchase and use by persons with PAT1 /PA6 certification only.
             
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              The problem is that you can buy 360 g/L glyphosate from several online suppliers including Amazon and EBay and no mention is made of needing to have certain certificates and no seller seems to request evidence so Uncle Tom Cobbley and all can buy it and use it.
              Regulations and laws only work if consistently enforced.
               
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                I've got some.:biggrin:
                Can someone explain?
                If I bought it at a garden centre it would be weaker.
                Now if I adjusted the dilution rate, ie. from the instructions of X amount per litre to double to a litre, wouldn't that just be the same thing?
                 
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                Yes,but you would be breaking the Conditions of use which has allowed you to be allowed to purchase at all . You may also be unlikely to be prosecuted but if the substance is subsequently outlawed as I think it has in France, you carry the blame !
                 
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                But someone would have to prove that you used it after the ban.
                 
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                  As they say, the law is an ass.:biggrin:

                  Its probably outlawed in France because its considered environmentally unfriendly, mostly because those that are licenced to use it were spraying acres upon acres with it, not because some gardener sprayed a few weeds in his back yard.
                   
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                    Arable farmers use vast amounts of the stuff.
                    As cereals ripen, they spray the entire crop with glyphosate to kill it, then they can predict when it will be ready to harvest and also not risk of having any live material included in the harvest.
                    It's not allowed in the the EU.

                    I've bought organic oats for my porridge and used organic flour every since I found out.
                     
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                      Not widespread in UK production due to the additional cost. This season in particular, because crop ripened/died off due to heatwaves early. Many farms finished cereal harvest this year before they normally would have started ! May be in states of the USA.
                      The biggest concern should be from the largest grain producers Russia, Ukraine and China. Regrettably the assurance schemes such as Red Tractor do not extend to this major source of imported cereals from areas permitted to use chemicals that are outlawed here; this provides a double problem of unfair competition to UK farmers due to low prices and the fact that such imported grain is mixed/blended with assured UK product, so that the users, major bakeries cannot use the assurance Red Tractor on their packaging due to loss of provenance. Meanwhile the UK producers of assured grain receive no premium price over world commodity price for no assurance grain despite bearing the 'compulsory' cost of the scheme.
                      No wonder they are angry !
                       
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                        Going off on a tangent from the original question, onto farmers income. Apparently 'British Sugar' who are the monopoly purchaser of British sugar beet are now importing from abroad because it's cheaper. British farmers can't compete. 'British Sugar' was supposedly created to support UK producers.
                         
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