Greenhouse - Goodbye Old Friend, Hello New

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    @shiney I always hear, in my head, the tune, "Chain Gang" when I'm toting and hauling things... The Sam Cooke version. I sometimes even hum it as I labour :)
     
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      We started by removing the roof panels at the end where they had been trying to slide out every time the were strong winds.
      I carefully removed the wall tiles that I had slid underneath the glass and between the timber. This had jammed them into their grooves. Simon was standing next to me ready to take the pane if it started sliding.

      We took out these three first and then moved to the other side. You can see where the timber had broken away.
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      Then started on the other side
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      As we worked our way further along the extra strips of wood that we had screwed to the frame some years ago needed to be sawn off as they were actually doing the job of keeping them in. :whistle:
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      Whereas some of that wood had dropped down because the wood it was fixed to had rotted away.
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      The job was made more difficult as the flashing tape we had run all round the bottom edge the other month (before we went on holiday) was very difficult to peel or cut off. Although it had done a good job.
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      The job was progressing slowly but steadily despite 40mph winds
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        That's a lot done in a short time. Of course me not doing it, makes it easier to say, "short". I'm sure you felt it took an eon.

        Thanks for sharing again. This is fun. At least for me... ;)

        I like the guttering. I had to make mine running across the back from side to side out of pvc pipe cut in half lengthwise.

        How are you going to get the side panels out? Surely you can't slide them up after all this time?
         
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          Couldn't you just push on one end and then sweep it up.:biggrin:
           
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            :yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:
             
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              We were then able to remove the small top lights by standing on steps and unscrewing the outside hinges by reaching through the now open roof.

              The side panels had to have the beading removed before we could get them out.
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              In theory that should then have made it easy just to have taken them out without needing to slide them. In practice, some of the larger side panels had Mastic used on the edges when a glazier had to replace them and the Mastic had gone solid. So they had to be cut out.

              Also, in theory, the bottom opening vents (they just lifted up to open them) should have been able to slide up and out.

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              No such luck. They had plastic clamps screwed in at the bottom and a screwdriver wouldn't shift the clamps.
              So an angle grinder had to be used
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              The panels at the far end also needed to angle grinder to cut the clamps. (Mrs Shiney taking the opportunity to have a last photo in the greenhouse)
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              The sliding door also need the angle grinder to cut through the metal channels.

              Then we were able to start taking the roof off but needed to take the top shelving out first.
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              On the top shelving at this end was some carpeting which has been used by numerous cats for them to snooze on. :heehee:

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                Unbelievable is the only way to describe how orderly you mapped out the logistics of tearing it down.

                That's a lot of concrete. I look forward to seeing a picture of it naked. And hope it shows not a lot of leveling needed.

                My eyes watered at the picture of Sarafi. I hope your Rosette will have space for a bit of carpet too.

                Mrs.S looks hale. :dbgrtmb:

                I've got to admit I'm going to be a pest with questions about the new house. Louver, vent, shelving placement and the thinking behind those decisions.

                Oh boy, do I ever wish I was there to help and learn!
                 
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                  We tried lifting one piece of the curbing to see whether it would come out easily. When I say 'we' it was only figurative as I just watched. The greenhouse was seated on top of it and that was on top of crazy paving. Once the greenhouse was settled in place we continued the patio paving that was on top of the crazy right up to the curbing.
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                  Once we have finished removing the greenhouse we shall need to tidy the paving, measure the perimeter of the crazy paving to see whether the new greenhouse will fit on it or whether we may need to take away some of the top paving. We shall then need to make sure it is flat.

                  In the meantime we have started loading the skip.

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                  I have put some of the benching on top of the skip to try and deter people from using it.
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                  Most of the wood shall be left to last so we can see whether we can fit it all in. If not then the wood will go on the bonfire.

                  We have two and a half weeks before the new greenhouse is delivered and then another three weeks before the fitters come along. So have that time to sort out any problems and to check the new one for missing parts.
                   
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                    The paving looks a challenge. I think I'm glad I'm staying put! :phew:

                    Again.. that's the sound of the men working on the chain ga a ang....
                     
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                      Gosh, you've worked hard!
                       
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                        I've been told not to continue doing any more deconstruction until Simon returns :noidea:. He is due again on Saturday if he can make it. Unfortunately rain is forecast for the rest of the week so he may not come. I'll try and get some tidying done. A bit of sweeping will make me feel better about the slowdown.

                        The armoured power cable on the catenary wire fixed to the pole at the far end needs to be removed before any more framework is taken down and I certainly can't bend down and lift the concrete blocks :rolleyespink:.

                        The blocks will need to go in the skip next before loading any more timber as it depends on how full the skip will be. Any timber that won't fit in the skip will go on my bonfire heap.

                        The wood that is lying against the hedge at the far end of the greenhouse is my large propagator. We shall be installing that in the new greenhouse. The black box still on the end of the benching is the smaller propagator. I may have a go at emptying the contents of that into buckets and chucking it into the skip. I'll buy a couple more buckets when out shopping as all thirteen of mine have the contents of the large propagator in them.

                        I'll add photos as I progress.
                         
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                          Great work @shiney and Mrs. shiney! You'll be glad when it's all away and ready for the new one though. Pity the weather's not playing ball, but that's how it is. Lifting out any kind of kerbstone or concrete edging is always hard work, but all of what you're doing is hard work.
                          Take care of yourselves with all that lifting and shifting anyway. New greenhouse won't be much good to you if you aren't able to use it!

                          The late, great Sam Cooke @CanadianLori . What a loss - and what a weird scenario surrounding his death. Don't think they'll ever get to the bottom of it. #A Change is Gonna Come - sublime. :smile:
                           
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                            Can you get the installers round after you've cleared it all, so they can tell you about any remedial work on the ground before installation?
                             
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                              We'll check it out first and if not sure will try and get them round.

                              I think it will be OK as long as the new one is not much wider than the old. We can't check it until Simon moves all the concrete blocks. I'm certainly not going to attempt to do it.

                              The length should be OK as there is sufficient space crazy paved area at the door end. The original area of the crazy paving is easily wide enough anyway but had other paving built on top that runs right up to the concrete blocks.

                              Anything that is not level enough should be OK with a concrete skim but an hoping that it has remained OK. None of the paving in top of the crazy seems to have moved at all. Hopefully the new one will have the same footprint as the old. :fingers crossed:
                               
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                                @shiney I have found that using shopping bags is great instead of pails. You know those ones that are sturdy and meant to be re-used? Ours cost about a pound each and if I use them for something messy, I hose them out and then run them through the clothes washer. And since they're cheap and thinner than pail plastic, if you throw them out in a month or so, it's less recycle than the pail. And the handles seem to be just the right length too. Well, for me...

                                Maybe bags will save you some money. Every little bit they say. :)
                                 
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