Rose support

After the removal of a shed I'll be clearing this ground, weather permitting, over the coming weeks. The fence (6ft high) is a joint boundary with problem neighbours and animals beyond. I want to create an independent support for a climbing rose that's 2ft higher than - and within the fence. I believe that's the legal height I can go too.

I've not had climbing roses before so have no idea of how much support it may need or what kind. Wood rots fairly quickly here so keeping that to a minimum would make sense.

I'd be grateful for your suggestions and perhaps pictures if you have any please.

 

Would an obelisk or arch suit the space @Sheal ?

 

A metal arch would be preferable to an obelisk as they can be higher and would be easier to erect than wooden posts with trellis between them which was my first thought.

You could even have two climbing roses, one each end of the arch, meeting eventually in the middle but you would have to research which climbing rose would be suitable for that spot and your soil conditions.

 

What do you mean by - within the fence?

 

What sort of climbing rose is it? Some grow a lot bigger than others.

 

That's a nice area with a small patio in front, if you aim to keep it that way. I also agree about a metal arch and would recommend, if budget allows as they cost around £200, one with a flat top. Other options would be what I have in my garden, metal arch shaped trellises, these come in 2 sizes and I have both shaped into an enclosure area. The smaller one is about 183cm, so not quite the height of the fence, the other is about 203 cm which is above the fence height. Remember too that climbing plants aim for the sun, so when they have reached the top, they still grow upwards, increasing the height by a foot or two in the case of climbing roses with their upright flowering shoots.
I can show you photos of my arrangement if you want.

If you type in google Panacea French Arch Trellis with finials you will see examples of these trellises and the flat topped arch I mentioned. I got my trellis from Primrose if I recall.

 

I might as well show you what I mean, I don't know if these are what you would want.

As you can see, I have 3 taller ones in the middle, and 2 shorter each side, forming an enclosure of sorts.


..with the right climbing rose, it will quickly cover the whole lot and as you can see, rise well above the height of the structure, when fully established.


Perhaps this will give you some idea as to the way ahead, adapted to suit your own purposes. These trellises just push into the ground on spikes if soil is not too stony, otherwise some digging might be required.

 

Thank you for your thoughts and ideas all. I think I need to expand on the situation.

I need to block off the top two feet above the fence to shut out my problem neighbours. It's a joint boundary fence and I won't risk attaching anything to it so I need to construct something my side of the fence. The neighbours have this part of their garden lit up like Blackpool after dark and quite often 24 hours a day. There's also a multiple cat problem, five of which are theirs, so having a climbing rose will help dissuade their constant use of the fence and my garden.



I want to cover the whole area between shed and righthand bed which is about 16ft across. So an obelisk won't have the desired effect. The rest of the ground will be turned into a flower bed.

That's the sort of thing I'm thinking of @Mrs Hillard but I'm wondering whether something more solid would be better and perhaps attaching wires for the climber.

I haven't chosen a rose yet @Busy-Lizzie. I need to make sure this will work before planting anything.

 

@Sheal, having looked at your photo and read what you are hoping to achieve, I don't think a climbing rose is going to have the desired effect unfortunately, mainly because it will go dormant in winter and you'll be left with bare stems. What is the height of the existing joint fence please? Would erecting a higher fence on your side be a possible option?
If you wanted something more heavy duty than the metal supports already suggested, you could perhaps think about having a kind of long, narrow wooden pergola erected - there's no height restriction on those as far as I know and wooden trellis panels could be attached to the back uprights.
Otherwise, if the glare of the NDN's lights is also an issue, more evergreen bushes like those you already have would seem to me a better option.

 

Sorry, Sheal, I've just read your first post in which you state the fence is 6ft high.

 

I've thought about a higher fence my side but it will look a bit strange just for that area. Having said that the current fence is at least 50ft in length and the rest is hidden by the shed and a bed full of shrubs. Below are a couple of older pics that will give you an idea of the area. The space we are discussing is where the smaller shed stood.

Thank you but I don't want more shrubs. The whole garden is full of them, back and front, which is why I want a bed there, to introduce some colour. I think you are probably right though, a higher fence is the only way to sort this problem and I have other ideas regarding the cats.

 

Go to a DIY or builders' merchants and look for metal grids used for reinforcing concrete. It comes in different gauges of thickness and squares. The 6mm is easy to cut to size with bolt cutters. It's rusty, almost invisible, will last decades withhout rotting and is cheap compared to wooden trellis. You then just need supports at either end.

Very easy to tie in and train climbers and ramblers be they roses, clematis, honeysuckle, pyracantha (thorny so good against uninvited guests) and anything else you fancy really.

I have used it in my last garden as a boundary fence up which I grew blackberries, tayberries and pumpkins. Here, we've used it to make a hen pen and grow a honeysuckle, tracheospermum and a clematis plus another sheet to support roses and clematis planted agains the walls of the ruin.

 

Thank you for the idea @Obelix-Vendée. I'm juggling the ideas that have been suggested here around in my head (thank you all) and then standing and staring at the back fence. An idea is starting to spark but it needs more thought. When it develops I'll let you all know.

 

If you like @Sheal I can take photos tomorrow

 

Yes, that would be good, thank you.