Viburnum bodnantense- Charlie or Dawn?

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  1. Selleri

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    Which one would you recommend, Charles Lamont or Dawn?

    I stole one of them 18 years back from a rented house, and it was of beautiful shape.

    I'd like a Viburnum bodnantense very much now, but am unsure if the one I liked so much was a Dawn or Charles Lamont or something else.

    Any ideas, recommendations or photos?

    Thanks :)
     
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    Hi

    I have gone off this plant as the beetle causes so much leaf damage. I had a mini hedge front garden between the neighbours, but without regular spraying it just looked a mess

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    I've had Dawn in my garden for some 30ish years.
    It's reliable and needs little care other than pruning when it gets too big.
    It's been in flower for a couple of weeks now and will likely last over winter.

    I've never seen any viburnum beetles on mine or in other gardens.
    I also see many V. Tinus in other gardens and many of them get the beetle - you can smell them before you see the damage. But never seen them on Dawn.
     
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      All the beetles are down here @pete! I think I've got a inherited large V.Dawn but by dint of cutting out the lower branches and making it more tree like, which the beetles don't seem to like, the damage has been minimised.

      Has anybody got pics of both varieties so I can see which viburnum I've got please?
       
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        From Google -

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        The main difference is flower color: Viburnum x bodnantense 'Charles Lamont' has brighter, more vivid pink flowers, while 'Dawn' has a darker pink bud that fades to a paler, pinkish-white as it matures. Both varieties are winter-flowering, highly fragrant, and have a similar upright habit, though 'Charles Lamont' may be slightly less tall and have a more spreading habit.


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        Thanks Pete for those pics, although I have to admit I'm even more confused.
        My plant/small tree is evergreen, a really bushy and rounded shape about 8 to 10ft tall x 5ft ? spread and has clusters of the pink flowers at intervals during the year. It was here when we arrived 18 years ago.

        I'll try to take a pic tomorrow.
         
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          @lizzie27 , is yours perhaps Viburnum tinus? That's an evergreen, often rounded shrub so very different.
          Viburnum tinus - Wikipedia

          Many thanks all for your replies, I think it was Dawn I had for many years and that's what I want. :)
           
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          Thanks indeed @Selleri, that does sound just like the one that I have, weather and time permitting I'll try to have a look tomorrow.
           
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          This is V Tinus which often gets beetle infestations when I see them here in Essex -

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          I grow both these Viburnum plus a good few other varieties like opulus. My Viburnum Tinus grows like a weed. I slaughter it every year but it still manages to regrow strongly and spoil the view out of my kitchen window! If I wouldn’t need a JCB to remove it I would quite happily say goodbye to it. The Charles Lamont is also quite a strong grower but better behaved! What kind of beetle do damage? I don’t have this issue, maybe too cold, it does have a few advantages!
           
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          I just went out to look at my viburnums - I have a Tinus and a Dawn, both young plants - and the Tinus has a fair bit of leaf damage with holes and browning, and some white webbing on the backs of the damaged leafs. Is this a sign of the beetle? The Dawn seems OK.
           
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              Yes the dreaded beetle , it’s easily sorted with a spray .. but where it was it was a shared hedge and it was me paying out and cutting it all the time ..
               
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