Whaaattt?

Hey, he even made a song that was quite popular after the War.

I never understood why he called it yellow though, perhaps I'm just too young

 

Re the submarine sinking the Iranian ship and not looking for survivors, I heard a naval expert explain how these torpedoes work (they don't puncture the ship but lift it out of the water with such ferocity that the ship breaks it's back). The truth is that very few people would survive that anyway.

My grandfather was sunk during ww2 and although he didn't talk about the war much, he did tell us the story. He was on HMS Spartan, a secret ship at the time, docked in Anzio harbour when a German glide bomb struck the ship. He was a radar operator but wasn't at his post because he had a stye on his eye. The bomb hit just about where he would have been sitting. The boat quickly went down and rolled over. Lots of his friends drowned because they couldn't swim and he couldn't either but as the boat rolled, he climbed over the railings and was rescued, sitting on the upturned boat. He did say, and it sounds like the start of a pub joke, that he was rescued sitting next to the captain and the priest, all on the upturned hull.
He went on to do the arctic convoys serving on the Ark Royal and even escorted Churchill on one of the missions (the boat not grandad).

 

Yes I've said before that her mishandling of a fairer community tax system led to her eventual downfall as PM but I also believe the Belgrano sinking was another nail in her coffin despite the time lapse. People have long memories when it comes to things like that. As for her attitude to negotiations with the EU least said the better

 

But it was not the electorate that brought Maggie down. It was the old boys' network that runs Westminster. She had kept the Tories in power for a decade. The way she was ousted was despicable, IMV. It was for voters to decide, not a few dozen old has-beens who had never made it to the top job themselves.

Now, I'm not saying I supported all her policies and, looking back from a distance of 30+ yrs on, it is clear some of her actions sowed the seeds for where we are today in terms of housing shortages, zero hrs contracts, etc. And, had she stayed in her job, we can't know whether she would have won the next GE (though I suspect she might have). But to say the poll tax or any other misstep brought her down is not true. Her overbearing attitude, her gender, her background - all these played a role, and ultimately it was a few irritated colleagues that saw her off because she did not fit within their sexist, classist agenda.

 

I'd certainly agree that she made her mark as a female PM and she proved herself as good as any male. Unfortunately, it's not possible to see into the future and in the end, it doesn't simply depend on gender.........it depends on what decisions are taken, for what reason and what lays behind them. Not knowing her personally, I wonder if some of her overbearing attitude was due to her trying to prove she was as good as the next person despite being a woman ? Who knows ? Every leader is open to opposition whether from colleagues or the voting public and she was no different. The actions they take, or don't take, are usually what brings about either their continued success or downfall Be interesting to see how the mid term elections go in the US and how long our present govt. will remain beyond their remit.

 

Indeed! Absolutely barking ... and wholly captured by the trans extremists. A serious dangerous combo, in my view.

On the plus side, I can't see them doing well in a GE when their manifesto will be under scrutiny. Even if they go into coalition with Labour, I don't think that would be enough to get elected. Well, let's hope not, anyway.

 

What happened to the Monster Raving lot - don't hear about them these days. Did they migrate to the US by any chance ? Quite a few going for Reform too.
In all seriousness tho who would you vote for ? Would you be more concerned about local issues and vote for an MP of whatever party if you thought they were the best bet for your locality ? Or would international issues matter more to you ? A minefield ( pun intended ) at the moment for any voter.

 

Alright what did the Monster Raving Loony Party do to upset you?