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Acers Help

Discussion in 'Gardening Discussions' started by scooby-mas, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. scooby-mas

    scooby-mas Gardener

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    Hi guys, I have 2 Acers in pots on my patio.... And apart from re potting them last year I've done nothing with them, this one
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    Is doing great looks awesome as it has every yr since I bought it
    Then this one for some reason all the leaves have wilted
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    Any ideas on the second picture? I give them a bit a water to keep them moist, should I be feeding them at all? If so what & when many thanks
    Scooby.
     
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    Could be -
    Wind scorch
    Frost scorch
    Sun scorch
    Vine weevils
    Alkaline soil
    Too wet
    Too dry
    Under fed
    Over fed

    Basically, they're fussy buggers in pots sometimes. Ericaceous compost and soil mix, just enough water and top dress every year, keeping out of wind and keeping in dappled shade.
     
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      They can be fussy boogers. I've got lots in pots and borders, but get this with the odd couple. It's really hard to tell what has done it and why it appears to affect some of mine but the majority, which get the same care, are okay :dunno:

      Have a look here for some info.

      They don't really need ericaceous compost - I use two thirds multi purpose with John Innes and one third ericaceous. I feed them once a year in early Spring with a small dose of slow release granular feed (see here for advice). You can either buy slow release fertiliser in tablet form or loose granules.
       
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        I had the same trouble with the two of mine I bought last year. They're in pots too - I didn't realise how fussy they can be. They both bounced back this year and are looking good so there is hope. I moved them into a more shady spot and kept an eye on them. At the end of March this year, I carefully scraped off a few inches of the John Innes No3 they were potted in, added fresh to top up, gave them a weak feed and finally added fresh bark chips to the top of the pot. So far so good. I'm keeping them in a shady and sheltered spot.
         
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          I've given up with Acers they don't like the climate in my garden. Looking at the leaves on yours I would say it's wind damage, mine had the same colouring before they dropped off and there is no way of reviving them, they will just give up the fight to survive, sorry!
           
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            I've got a feeling I may have give it tomato feed? By mistake ... Would that have done it...
             
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            Doubt it, unless the "dilution rate" was too strong. Tomato fertiliser is just a balanced fertiliser with an emphasis on Potash. Potash is beneficial to flowering / fruiting, so that part of the fertiliser would have been "wasted" (which you might want to consider going forwards - 'coz Tomato fertilise often more expensive than balanced) but if it was all you had, and you don't have a large garden big enough to justify lots of different fertilisers, then I see no reason not to use that

            I would put it in the most sheltered part of your garden, shaded from significant amounts of sunshine and see how it gets on.

            I have 4 Acers, pretty much side by side, all in the same soil, well sheltered, dappled shade ... every year one of them (same one each year) looks all-but-dead. Its played that game for 3 years now, no idea why it bothered to struggle into leaf. I have no idea what that one wants that is different to its brothers ...
             
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              Will move it for next year and see how it gets on...
               
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              I love acers!!

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                I too have not fared well trying to grow Acers in pots and have lost several. I would put it down to wind scorch as well as Sun burn. I have had success with Acers planted in the borders in a sheltered and lightly shaded area. My soil borders on neutral so ericaceous compost doesn't seem to be all that necessary, but watering with rain water and not tap water will be beneficial. Tomato feed wouldn't do any harm to the Acer even if over strength, so I think your Acer caught a case of wind scorch and hasn't liked it:dunno::coffee:
                 
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                  Will get it move ready for next yr thank you...
                   
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                    When people say avoid wind, is a fairly light breeze ok? Also, is it best to bring acer saplings in when it drops below 5 degrees, as it's expected to in London this Fri - Sun?


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                    A light breeze won't harm an Acer but a cold wind will,:dunno: :snork: My Acers are in a sheltered position and so far they have not be harm by frosts. I think if the Acer is in a lightly shaded sheltered position there should be no need to bring them inside.:coffee:
                     
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                    Hi,
                    I have struggled with acers in pots, bought a new one last year to replace a dead un, now this year I have lost 2.
                    I have had cheapies from Wilkos, and expensive (normal garden centre price) ones.
                    As soon as the leaves drop in the autumn I move them to the side of the house where they are sheltered, but don't cover them (perhaps I should?).
                    I bring them out again in march as the leave start to come out, I don't wrap them on frosty nights or anything like that. I have tried in the past but I forget or forget to remove it again if I'm working.
                    This year my red "firecracker" has survived, although died back some from last year.
                    red acer 1.jpg
                    My "little princess" (£3 from wilkos) is now a twig.
                    My "orange dream" (£3 from wilkos) sprang into life but is now wilting away Iand I don't expect it will recover.
                    green acer 1.jpg
                    I love the delicate leaf shape but hate to lose them. I am not palnning on replacing them unless I can find a tougher type that can cope with the reduced attention I can give it.
                    I do remove and replace the tops soil with a buit of fresh compost and add granular food each spring as I get them out.

                    The big sticks are to divert footballs, frisbies and low flying children.

                    Cheers
                    David
                     
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