After Brexit - am I stupid or what?

Well, as you know, noisettte, anyone on this Forum with that attitude, unlikely as that is, will convert from a Remainer to a Leaver!!

 

Not entirely sure why you think I have no empathy Noisette or if that jibe about a nasty human nature was directed toward me? My comment followed on from Lori's previous comment and it was purely regarding how routine life is after Brexit, on the day we left the EU - no dramatic scenes, no sky falling in etc. No need to try and read anything into it

 

I thought that originally, noisette, but then the growing tide of abuse aimed at those supporting Leave in those 'orrible 4 years went to a level we have never ever seen. Financial and personal "misdoings" of every sort were leveled by London City, Labour run, organisations, National Papers, and TV media repeating those accusations made life Hell for leading Political Leaders supporting the Leave decision. No mention of those accusations were made after the last General Election and, like the Tide, the flood of slime politics ebbed away like magic. I think what has mostly left a "scar" with people was the way the result of the Referendum was attacked as null and void in so many ways by organisations and Polticians who's self interests were threatened, which is not what we are used to no matter how we criticise our own British democracy. The way our own Politicians deliberately ignored the result and tried every thing they could to stop Brexit happening was the key to actually getting Brexit "done". The opposition parties in the Parliament started making up and passing their own laws to delay/stop when the Government didn't have a working majority. They went to the Courts numerous times to try to stop Brexit and failed. The decision in the Supreme Courts that a Prime Minister contitutional right to prorogue Parliament was "unlawful" resulted in cries for the Prime Minister to be jailed and the Queen's authority being questioned by the Leavers.
The situation is still, I think very raw in certain quarters with hard liners on the Remain side probably still wishing the trade negotiations to fail etc. It will take several years for things to settle, although we are still in stormy waters with various issues still boiling away.

 

Noisette, I have no faith/belief, whether that be Religious or in Life There have been times in the earlier when in a Company in crisis I have said to the Directors when they were wondering whether I was staying or leaving that I said "I've stuck my Flag with yours" with one Director looking puzzled until another told him what I meant.
I don't believe in anything I can't taste, touch, see, feel or hear. But there are times when you have to decide to believe in something, possibly give something that you can't get back, nor probably want to. I believed in my Wife, I still do, even though I lost her to Motor Neurone Disease in April 2001. I believe in my Life long friend who I would give my Life for and he would do the same for me.
And I believe in Great Britain, not it's politicians, but in Britain itself. I hate it's Winters so grey and depressing, I hate the fleetingness of the Summer as it never stays long enough, but then I stop on a warm blue skied day and I love it all and I believe in it.
Great Britain is an Island with 21 miles of Sea that says so. We are an Island people, we've fought with every country in Europe as foes, and we have fought with them as Allies and friends...........but we're not European. I'm not a Nationalist thumping the Drum but I'm a person who looks around, see's all the faults and yet is quietly proud of what our British History is and what it can be.

 

I think that a lot of the bile and invective on both sides has been promulgated by the media and not helped by the spouting and chest thumping of politician on both sides. Apart from our home grown politicians, our media point up and emphasise all the stupid rhetoric from the EU politicians and ignore any friendly or mediating comments. The foreign media do likewise the other way.

All this stirs up discontent, emphasises misinformation - and sells copies and advertising!!!

The general groundswell of opinion that I've noticed on both sides (doing a lot of travelling and mixing) is that people tend to think well of each other but are influenced unfairly by all the hate propaganda.

People in public life should stick to the old adage 'if you can't say something nice, keep quiet'. Unfortunately, that's just pie in the sky.

I have no trouble taking public figures to task, in public meetings, if I think they are overstepping the mark . Although I have slowed down a bit now.