another school shooting

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  1. Jenny namaste

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    So hard for all those still here, my heart goes out to them this Christmas, may they find comfort and peace,
    Amen

     
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      Now you have started the tears up again Jenny

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      They won't go away for nearly every parent in the US of A this Christmas Jack
       
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      I went to see my son's class's nativity play on Tuesday morning. As I sat there bored, smiling and clapping on cue, suddenly I realised something and I was almost overwhelmed with emotion. There are a bunch of people just like me, who wont be going to see their kid's school play, not this christmas or any other from now on.
       
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        i sobbed all the way through the grand children's nativity with the exact same thoughts and judging by the amount of others doing to same thing, i think we will all carry alittle of their grief too
         
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        That is so very true CK,
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        So much sadness - how do you ever get over such an ordeal?
         
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        I am so thankful that I have been spared such a dreadful event in my own life,
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        My 21 year old Grandson had meningitis when he was 8 months old - I still look back at the hours we sat at the hospital waiting and praying - he has suffered over the years with allergies, asthma, eye problems and other problems. I am so proud of who he is - a wonderful natured and loving person who was given the chance to live his life.
         
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          I know, thought about that the day before Christmas, how 28 families and then some, who bought gifts already for someone who will not be there to open them. I can't imagaine the suffering, the heart breaking of those parents at this time, or anytime. As I don't have children the closest thing I can come to is the lose of my dog at Christmas some years ago, and I said to a friend, cannot imagine the pain a parent can have, this is bad enough.

          But, as far as gun control. To me that still is not the issue.

          Working in the mental health field for years, I see that it is the general poor system to identify a person that can do this type of damage and set certain restrictions in place.
          The other day, some man who spend 17 years in jail, who was there for killing his grandmother with a hammer. He was released, got a gun (system fault) And started burning buildings, then in the process of capture, he shot two fire fighters, they died. Now you tell me, how can a man with this background get a gun. Furthermore, any person with that much evil to kill your grandmother should never be released. I believe America is too soft when it comes to the psychological evil nature of humans, and they are out there.
           
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            I read this morning that a body has been found in the burnt out building and Police belive it to be that of his sister whom he disliked but had to live with and also his mother died in October of this year so that might have had something to do with it but I expect we shall never know:frown: .Glad he took himself out of it though so that tax payers in the US don't have to spend money keeping him for the rest of his life:hapfeet:
             
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            Ahh, Kandy, but the tax payers payed for 17 years already.
             
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            Yes sorry Red,I forgot all about the time he had already done for killing his Grandmother all those years ago.:doh: Perhaps they should have sent him to the chair/lethal injection then.At least it would have saved some money and he wouldn't have been able to destroy those firefighters lives and i believe one of those was just a young man with the whole of his life before him and there is no saying whether the other two firefighters who survived will have life changing injuries because of it...
             
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            I had a client in one of my group homes, who was very dangerous. She would just wack the face of my staff. The worse would happen when she was in transport in a van, and would throw something at the driver, anything could have happened. Then I discovered that a few years prior she flung her own mother against the wall cracking ribs and broke her arm. Needless to say, My exact words to my staff were: "if she can hurt her own mother, we are chop meat to her". So staff was advised to stay the distance in any care you do for her. I also got a barrier put up in the van, so the driver would not be hurt and distracted. And then I set the motion to discharge her to a more restrictive place. What I am saying is: with the man who took a hammer to his grandmother, the man should have never been allowed out, period.

            One time she actually tried to turn a table on top of me, I held the other end down, looked her straight in her eyes, did not say anything. She backed up.
             
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