Apple Recommendations please

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  1. JimmyB

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    Can only agree. The amount of sugar in our processed food is a bit insane - though we get attuned to it. I've cut most processed sugar out of my diet in Jan - just to lose a bit of weight and for health reasons. It's unbelievably effective: I can attest to the fact that sugar definitely plays with the triggers for whether you feel hungry or not, and whether you feel full or not. As is well reported now - sugar turns off those two signals in your brain with bad effects!

    We have a local Jersey cooking apple - trying to remember it's name - which likewise holds its shape well. I was given one last year in spring, and despite some bad abuse (it sat dug up on a driveway for a few days in the sun) it transplanted fine - and we had a small crop from it which I thought was pretty impressive for a reasonably mature tree.
     
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      I'm finding cutting out processed sugar in beer to be a bit of an uphill struggle at the moment. :biggrin:
       
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        @pete me too! It is unquestionably the hardest bit and it's where I fall down from time to time. Hey ho...
         
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          Finally got a new stick! A maiden apple, Fiesta, around 1m tall. Just heeled in now while I plan where to put it
           
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            Apple tree today :( bark is almost ringed and trunk a bit floppy. I wonder if it's worth cutting down and going for multi-stemmed attempt

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            I'd just put some tape around it for a few months while the bark heals over.
             
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            I think I'm more concerned about the floppy trunk. It must have been bent over or chewed but it definitely 'loose'
             
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              @Loofah
              Have a look at the graft and see if that is intact. If it is and in the photo it seems to be below the ringed area it may shoot between these two points and that should be Fiesta, from below the graft then it will be the rootstock.
              If the graft is damaged then start again.
              If you tape it up and it heals my concern would be a permanent weakpoint.
              I would also look at some type of trunk guard to keep the ringer away, maybe temporary some chicken wire.
               
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                It depends how many viable buds there are between the graft and the cut. That will dictate how many shoots you get. Frankly, that damage is nothing compared to one of mine that the deer got to, and that's still alive. Just trim the damaged bark cleanly with a sharp, disinfected knife and put a tall ring of sturdy mesh round the tree. It'll be fine.
                ETA Oups, crossed with Nigel's post! If the trunk is wobbly, stake it and tie supports above and below the damage.
                 
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                If you do stake it then remember that it shouldn't be staked for more than a year or two. It dissuades the tree from strengthening up on its own.
                 
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                It's the creation of a weak point. The bark I could probably sort but with such a young tree is it worth it? I think probably not. It might be worth cutting, there's about 8" above the graft but in honesty it's a pretty rough looking graft!
                Think I'll chop it and ask permission from the committee to buy another
                 
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                  If you are after an eating apple I can recommend two very good ones. Both were originally bred from the Cox's Orange Pippin.

                  Sunset:- I don't know what apple it is crossed with. It is one of the few fully self-fertile and an earlier ripening tasty one, generally on the smallish size but as it produces lots of smaller apples you can thin them out and you will get larger ones. Disease resistant and ours produces a heavy crop every year and has done so every year for the last 50 years. It also cooks well.

                  Charles Ross:- (crossed with Peasgood Nonsuch to produce a larger apple - we also have Peasgood). Semi self-fertile but does extremely well if there are pollinators around which I imagine your garden has. A later season very tasty eater which is also good for cooking. That has produced a heavy crop every year for the last 50 years as well).

                  They're our two best eaters. :blue thumb:

                  If you want cookers:-

                  Warner's King:- (heavy cropper but needs pollinators) and is earlier than Bramley.

                  Edward VII:- also needs pollinators but is a late producing tree so is excellent as a frost resistant because the flowers start late.

                  Bramley:- a good cooker, of course, but usually needs two pollinators (a triploid).
                   
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                    Thanks @shiney I'm OK with the Fiesta selection, but still nice to have options
                     
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                      Think it was no.1 son or a fox. They were rutting the other night and may have bitten it instead of a pillow :whistle:
                       
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