Britain and the EU

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  1. Freddy

    Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

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    Shucks Dai, maybe it was Yew, coulda sworn Richard Greene mentioned Willow... :)
     
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    Wasn`t Richard Greene a Bristolian?:scratch::WINK1:
     
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    Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

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    Well, I consider myself British. Of course, it's nice to have an 'Identity', but as far as I'm concerned, we're all on this island together.
     
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    Freddy Miserable git, well known for it

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    No no, he was definately from Nottingham! :D Actually, he was from Plymouth :)
     
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    I'm reading a book about the Danes in Britain. The long-bows are definitely Yew! :)
     
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    No, he was definitely a bloke.
     
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      You don't need a degree to work that one out.

      Europe is has never been stable and united. European countries are always bickering with one another, or even waging war. In my lifetime alone, we've seen at least three very serious attempts at genocide within Europe (two Balkan's wars and one all out war between two of Russia's nearest neighbours). That's not even including the various smaller scale and unofficial conflicts and terrorism.

      Add to that the fact that each country, and even different provinces within the same country, each have their own traditions, their own industry, different levels of wealth. Add to that the fact that Europe has such a wide range of climatic conditions, all affecting what crops they can or can't produce, and what other industries they can or can't profit in.

      Put all that together, and you have absolutely no hope of finding a system that works well for everybody.
       
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        not according to many of the world leaders (including the Pope) ...

        they are all 'promoting' a new world order and have done so for several years.... and the Euro coalition was one of the 1st steps of their goal
         
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        No good in the winter, unfortunately. If the temperature dips below freezing, they snap.
         
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        Wonderful if we were out of it all together
        The amount of beneifits paid to EU NATIONALS A2 NATIONALS AND A8 NATIONALS is beyond belief

        A National working in the UK can claim child benefit and child tax credit for children he has back home, So long as he is not also claiming in his home country
        So he has the option claim £80pw per child here and send it home OR claim the £4.25pw per child back in Poland
        He or She is free to make their own decission Oh decissions decissions I hate having to make decsissions

        WOW how difficult is that

        EU A2 and A8 Nationals may work in the UK for £6.08ph minimum wage and get an additional £86pw working tax credit OR stay at home and work for £2.13per hour and NO credit
        Hells bells another decission

        EU A2 and A8 Nationals due to low wage can have a subsidised Flat housing benefit and no council tax at £30pw OR they can let up to five pals share the flat at £5pw Oh another hard decission

        The sooner we can stop benefits UNLESS you have paid into the POT for a minimum of Two years the better IMHO
        This should apply to OUR LOT too Nothing until you have paid into the POT

        The EU is no give and ALL take
        They do not buy from us, We make nothing to sell
        If we were out, no different, They want to sell to anyone so we buy just as we do now
        If they do not want to sell Well fair enough, NZ Lamb is far tasiter than the Frog version anyday

        We buy MOST of our Electrickery from France
        Lets get a couple of NUKE reactors built double quick

        Nothing wrong with Nuke, I sat alongside one for ten years and there is nowt wrong with me
        I glow in the dark so can see my own way home at night without street lights thus saving electrickery, and the extra three fingers so I can touch type quicker. more productive

        Why not wire the ten redundant Nuke Boats in ROSYTH UP TO THE NATIONAL GRID

        Jack McHammocklashing
         
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          So only annoy people in the summer then :-)

          Jack McH
           
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          Which is a suberb of Bristol.:loll::loll::loll::dbgrtmb:
           
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            All good points Jack.

            What would have been good would have been the requirement of the parent Country to refund the benefits paid to their National back to the UK.
            OK the downside would be the UK would have to pack back ALL the benefits paid to UK Nationals claiming benefits in Poland etc. - but you have to play fair, don't you.

            The other Minefield to open would be:-
            1. "Explain how Assylum Seekers are able to claim safe harbour in the first Counrty that holds no peril to the individual(s) - and they travel across the whole of Europe, and often further, to queue in squaller for months for the chance to sneak into the UK when the opportunity arises".

            2. "Explain how, when an illigal migrant has successfully hidden in the UK for several years without detection, are able to claim unfair treatment, be allowed to stay because their children would be unfamiliar with the parent culture"

            3. "Explain how an individual, who has passed the requirements to legally enter the UK to work, can bring in all the relatives to reap gthe benefits of the National Health"
             
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