Can anyone identify these please?

Have you tried candicum Dave P?
Pininana,I've managed to get to flower a few years ago, but the most recent, (in the pic) is Echium hybrid "pink fountain" from chilterns, it seems a little bit hardier.
I had a plant of wildpretii, (is that the red one) which was densely hairy, but no chance, rotted off at the first frost.
I've tried fastuosum, in a pot, but its not really on. I think they need more root space, wish I could grow it in the garden.

 

Pete, are you referring to a shrubby, bristly plant spreading wider than tall carrying 30 - 45cms. long spikes of rich blue through to near white flowers? Spear shaped leaves to more than 40cms. sometimes silvery, other times bright green? I suspect you might mean E. candicans, which is the current correct name for E. fastuosum. Several forms exist, some are extremely tender while others are remarkably hardy. All forms take up too much horizontal space for me, which is why I reluctantly have to give them a miss. I'm forced to make a choice and unfortunately this Echium loses out to the Hedychiums, which always perform exceptionally well and give a very long period of flower - usually through to December and sometimes into the New Year.

 

Thanks for all the great info guys. To be honest Echiums are so commonplace here that I thought I could just plant mine and off it would go :rolleyes: My seedling wilts and then perks up on a daily basis. Never know whether to water or not :confused: Perhaps my desperation to have one is the root cause :(

 

Yes your right Dave, I've just looked it up, its a long story, but I grew fastuosum from seed years ago, grew it in a pot, but it never flowered. More recently I bought a plant labelled as candicum, it must be candicans, and I now find its the same plant as fastuosum.
All a bit confusing, your description is what I am trying to achieve, not quite there yet.

Keep going windy, you'll get there in the end.

 

Yes it was a really tall spike liz, looks just like the one in pete's picture with light blue flowers.
Forgot to say in case anyone doesn't know but the sculpture gardens are in St.Ives so it's obviously a nice climate, and the gardens are in a very sheltered spot.