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Chillies 2021

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by JWK, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. Loki

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    Looking at the pics, pot them on, the pots are to small. Start feeding them now that they are producing flowers. Tomato feed or chilli focus are good.
    Apologies if this has been replied too, I feel in shock! I will miss our armandii
     
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      Is the Dorset Naga chilli plant well known because i just came across some videos about it today..or is there even possibly bigger ones to grow..given the time and effort plus more southern climate in polytunel that is ? :wow:
       
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        Chillies are extremely promiscuous and cross pollinate easily. A little help from a paint brush won't go amiss. The varieties you have crossbreed easily. They tend not to be so easy with the Naga type chillies.
         
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          No need to pinch out but they definitely appear to need repotting. Check to see whether any roots are showing out of the bottom of the pots. :blue thumb:

          We always use tomato feed on them but only when they have started producing a number of flowers. We tend to wait until the first flower is just showing a fruit :noidea:
           
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            Simple answer - Yes! :)

            At one stage they were registered as the hottest chilli in the world. It's a world wide challenge each year to try and breed hotter ones.

            Most of the registered hottest ones are all bred from the Naga. They can grow quite tall if unrestricted by smaller pots. The Naga originated in Bangladesh (not in the Indian State of Nagaland next door :noidea:) and, like all chillies, are actually perennials.

            In a 3 litre pot they will grow 3ft-4ft high but they take much longer to fruit than the chillies you are growing.

            We have been growing Nagas for the Bangladeshi community around us (mainly 'Indian' restaurants) for their personal use for many years. We haven't bothered this year as they take more time and effort than other chillies and we can't be sure of the sales because of coronavirus causing many not to open their restaurants.

            A lot of restaurants now have Naga curry on their menus. Most of them don't actually use the chillies in the curry but use Naga pickle which can be bought in most Indian shops. Some restaurants make their own pickle.
             
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              Hello - I'm a new participant in the forum , growing some chilli varieties - golden cayenne ( 3 plants , lemon habanero ( 2 plants ) , aji omnicolor ( 2 plants ) apache and super chilli ( 3 each ).

              I don't have a greenhouse so these are all indoors in a light room in essentially 10 cm pots other than the habaneros which i potted up yesterday one size up. Everything is destined to stay in pots , and in a few weeks I'm hoping at-least some can stay outside most of the time in my quite sheltered courtyard in London.

              My question is this - I read quite conflicting advice re pot size. Apache I am sure I have seen can do fine in 1-2 litre pots ( so basically one size up from the ones currently ) , super chilli a little bigger although thinking i might put all 3 of those in one (bigger) pot) . Aji I actually bought the seeds as i thought this was going to be compact ( suitable for 1 litre) too , but does anyone have any experience of this as saw that it can be quite a sprawling vine-like plant.

              And would 3-5 litre pots be ok for the golden cayenne and habanero ( i might try and keep the latter alive into next year by bringing indoors as although leaves are huge they don't seem to have grown especially tall)

              Thank you very much in advance
               
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              Welcome to GC and the chilli thread.

              2 litres is fine for some but 3 litre pots would be ideal for all of them. Don't pot them into those pots until you see some roots coming out of the pots that they are in. Some chilli plants will grow bigger if potted on to bigger pots, or in the ground, but they will easily grow big enough in 3 litres.

              Don't put them outside if the temperature is going to drop below 10C as it will slow them down considerably. Frost will finish them off!

              The usual thing at this time of year, if you haven't got a greenhouse, is to put them out during the day and bring them back in at night. I always advise people not to leave them outside until at least June.

              Good luck :)
               
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                thank you @shiney -- I was similarly thinking beginning of June for the season transfer outside (shall keep one each of the smaller ones in 2 litre pots as house plants under a skylight to see how they do) - and just to double check -- there should be no issues if eg I want to put 3 golden cayennes in a 10 litre pot ( for example) vs 1 plant per (smaller) pot? Was just thinking once they are potted up and don't fit my carrying tray it is likely to be easier to move 2-3 larger pots than a dozen smaller ones in and out of the house. I'll post pictures once there is something other than just leaves to see!
                 
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                  There shouldn't be any issue with more in a large pot but I much prefer to have them individual. :)
                   
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                    Welcome to the forum @Lovechillies !

                    Yes, @shiney is giving you great advice. I too was confused when I first started growing them and believed an American site that said only to use 5 gallon pots. Well, I landed up with a greenhouse full of tall leafy things and not a lot of peppers on each plant. Here's a pic. I still get tall plants with smaller pots but they are more productive.

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                      Thanks @CanadianLori - that is really helpful -- that is exactly what I was confused about ( ie I can understand that there will be some nuance to pot size based on how much you want to feed/water and your climate , but the advice is massively variable even on the same variety. Perhaps the much-larger-planter-brigade are in much warmer climes and growing them as quasi-shrubs.
                       
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