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Co-habiting advice needed

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Vince, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. Vince

    Vince Not so well known for it.

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    As some of you know, I've been with Carol for quite a few years now, living together.

    Following the death of my mother, her estate will be shared by my sister and myself, she left a will.

    I've had a few health problems (minor) which have made me sit up and think...... what happens to my estate if I pass away before Carol?

    I know I could just leave a will but reluctant to line somebody else's pocket....

    Any other options? ........ don't say marry her, we've both been there and NEVER again!:censored:
     
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    For the cost of writing a will I would go down that road.

    When we wrote our will, a very simple one, we were able to reduce the amount of tax that we would have to pay (cant remember the details of how this worked but it gives the surviving partner a loan of half of our estate). Yes, there was a charge for this but in the long run we pass less back in taxes.

    It also removes any ambiguity and makes it clear where the estate should go in the event of any 'hangers on' contesting the will.
     
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    • ricky101

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      A simple will costs around £150-£200 from a local solicitor, though perhaps more expensive in your area.

      Would suggest its well worth getting one done via them, as diy or will writers could lead to even more problems and expense and you are not around to pick up the peices

      If you look around you might be able to take advantage of the march free will month, its done by solicitors, basically they hope you will leave a donation in your will to the charities who support the scheme.
      Free Wills Month - Your Will Helping Great Charities

      Without marriage or the new domestic partnership, Carol would be left with nothing, as I understand things, as if she is not named in a will or if intestate , things would go to any of your relatives or if non, then the state .
       
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      • Doghouse Riley

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        Two things as a couple you should do, married or not, is make a will and a lasting power of attorney. The latter should be registered with the Office of the Public Gardian. That costs £110.

        You can do all this on-line.

        Presently, if you die your partner will get nothing. Also if you become incapacitated she won't be able to access your bank account unless it's in joint names.
        We did all this last year, it was quite painless.
         
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        • LauraRoslin

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          You definitely need to write a will. And if you are likely to be incapacitated in the future, a POA is also a good idea.

          Speaking as someone who has seen the hassle, hurt and anger that can be caused in a family by someone who told their children their wishes but didn't sign the will, I strongly advise you to do it cos at the moment Carol has no right to anything at all.
           
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          • NigelJ

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            On a slightly gloomy note you might want to consider who has a say and who doctors will speak to in the event of serious illness, especially if there are other relatives or children from previous relationships. I don't know if a POA will cover this eventuality.
            A couple, I know, married when one developed cancer, just to allow information to flow more easily to their partner. Well that was they told people.
             
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            • Verdun

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              I have written my own Will. My parents did. Members of the family have done the same.
              Essential that everybody has a Will in place.
              Don’t delay. Do it today. :)
              Will packs can be purchased, from the Post Office for example, for a few pounds.
              It’s not hard to do ...just remember to leave clear instructions and follow the guidelines accompanying the packs
              However, if in doubt a solicitor will do this for less than £200
              Talking to family, doctor and close friends is important ......making your wishes and views clear helps consolidate anything written in your Will and potentially saves a lot of hassle.
              Ditto with POA.....again I did this via an online application
              Talking about death with close ones is never easy but it is important.....easier in practice than imagining the process:)
               
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                I agree with all the others. You definitely need a will made. Check the price with a local solicitor. If I remember, Free Wills Month requires you to be over 55 years old. They don't insist on you leaving something to charity but I'm sure there will be some pressure there.

                If you can't make up your mind that quickly - we're approaching the end of the month - there is Will Aid in November. https://www.willaid.org.uk/will-makers/find-a-solicitor They don't ask for anything to be put in the will but suggest that you give a donation to Will Aid. The solicitors involved are happy for you not to make a donation if you can't afford it (I use them for people on benefits) but usually suggest a £75 donation.

                Power of Attorney is also something I think is a good thing. :)
                 
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                  Morning all, a very interesting thread. :goodpost:

                  @Verdun, we haven't done ours yet but have thought about a diy one too. May I ask you where you keep your will, obviously it has to be in a place safe and known to certain others?
                  Thanks
                   
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                    Two types of power of attorney, one for health and one for finances as I recall.

                    You can write the will yourself and have it witnessed, all free, and then register it for £30 on the national will register. I did my own and have a copy of it in the filing cabinet along with my wife's.

                    But as above, get the will written.
                     
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                      Ours are with the solicitors who drew them up. Doesn't help with a DIY one :heehee:

                      There are now. When we did ours it was combined, and easier. It's still valid. :noidea:
                       
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                        Thanks @shiney , yes I know 'ordinary ' wills can be left with the solicitor that's what my parents have done:blue thumb:
                         
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                          Yes, a will and powers of attorney are a must.

                          When I first read the title, I was going to reply "don't leave the seat up"! :heehee:
                           
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                            That's why soft close toilet seats were invented, to prevent domestics :biggrin:
                             
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                              We are a "soft close house." It's a bit embarrassing when visiting friends, you use the toilet, then when you've finished, you let the seat go!
                               
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