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Corona Virus Treatment

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by ricky101, Feb 10, 2020.

  1. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    It's being over done, as usual, by the media.
    Life must go on, or, when it is all over, there will be nothing left.
     
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      What? Complete annihilation of the world as we know it?
       
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      pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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      How do you mean?
       
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      Your quote " life must go on, or when it is all over, there willbe nothing left"
       
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      At some point a vaccination will be produced.
      At another point in time, brexit will be finished good or bad.
      I'm much more concerned with the extinction of our wildlife and destruction of habitats world wide.
      THAT issue will not go away and will have a catastrophic future for our children and grand children unless the people can convince the politicians to act.
       
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        Not all of us have children actually, but yes I agree.
         
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          Well, what I actually meant was things such as Brexit, must go on and not be stopped by the virus.
          Too much emphasis being put on the virus.
          Bear in mind people are dying of other problems, they haven't gone away but are still being ignored due to all efforts going to the virus.
           
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            I'd actually put destruction of habitat and wildlife well above climate change in order of importance.

            Maybe the virus is nature's way of trying to restrict the human population. Which is why other diseases will come along at some point.

            We are like hamsters, over breeding in cage that never gets cleaned out. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
             
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              Its funny how what seems obvious to one person seems different to another. I've tried very hard to embrace the ongoing importance of Brexit, but with all that's going on I just can't, any more. It just feels like a First World Problem, and to see these highly paid "negotiators" still squabbling about trade deals when there are now nearly a million dead from covid just makes me feel I'm living in a parallel Universe. To me, its like worrying about a local 5-aside football match on the day of the World Cup Final. We've been arguing about Europe for over 50 years, and the debate will continue, just as our relationship with Europe will continue to develop this way and that over the decades. I do sometimes wonder what would happen if the EU its self were to crumble, we would have to start from scratch again then, all countries working out new relations with each other and new regional groupings, which might not be a bad thing.
               
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                While I understand the basic premise of this, I'm always nervous about ascribing "nature's way" sorts of explanations for viruses and health problems which the evidence suggests may well have their roots in human mismanagement and actions. Viruses have medical causes and for me the "nature's way" argument has a dangerously "karmic" or quasi-religious quality, and has been used unpleasantly in the past.
                 
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                • pete

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                  In no way am I religious @SimonZ .
                  Just think the way the human race is multiplying we are on collision course with nature.
                  Oh we get the likes of green peace and attenborough spouting and taking the high ground, but do they mention the real problem, no they just tinker with the symptoms.

                  As to local 5 a side football matches, I'm not interested, but if I was I'd prefer to watch my team win rather than two foreign teams of professionals who are miles away.

                  Only a million dead, I thought it would be more than that by now, and I mean that ,one million in 7.8 billion.
                   
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                    Yes, no doubt you're right there, its happening before our eyes and was, in fact, dealt with in no small way in the recent Attenborough documentary. But there is more to our environmental problems than population size. Many aspects of industry, land misuse, pollution and diet would have to change for a start.
                     
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                    I think it was fairly obvious what I meant with my football comparison - Brexit seems like a little local trouble compared to a global pandemic. True, a million may be a drop in the ocean in purely numeric terms, but I think the problem here is the speed with which it developed, the lack of understanding about its causes and effects, and the confusion over infection. In any case, the issue we now face is containing it as we go forward, that's why I think it should be the priority. Brexit can be sorted, scrapped, postponed, or whatever - no-one dies. Alastair Campbell and Nigel Farage will blow a few more gaskets arguing over it but in the scheme of things it won't matter much. But if covid-19 is not contained as we head into the season when it is expected to thrive, the million dead already could be dwarfed by what follows.
                     
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                    Maths isn't my strongest talent so, what is the percentage =one million in 7.8 billion please
                     
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                    I dunno, but it aint much.:biggrin:
                     
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