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DIY TomTato Grafting Tomatoes onto Potatoes 2015

Discussion in 'Edible Gardening' started by JWK, Mar 18, 2015.

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      Today I've started to force my potatoes, into a darkened box to encourage the sprouts to get higher. I'm aiming to do the grafts on Tuesday after which they go into a cool shady place. The critical stage of reducing misting and increasing light will be over the following weekend, I'm trying to time it for the weekend so I'm at home and can check on them every couple of hours.
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        Look forward to your results. Will post some pics of my Tom on Tom grafts. Going great guns. Potted a few into main pots today. Now need some better weather!!
         
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          I've left it too late this year:doh: but looking forward to seeing your progress John and yours too DRB:dbgrtmb:...
           
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            Few Pics of grafts so far
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            Ten of early grafts in main pots. All look V sturdy
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            Few others coming along well
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            This two varieties on one rootstock. Seems to be thriving a present and growing evenly
            Both were small cleft grafts
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            Now since then I have tried some approach grafting But it is technically a bit more tricky
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            Tried 3 of these and 2 survived. One keeled over when I separated the scion root so obviously the graft didn't take properly

            I need a bit of advice with this last one. 3 weeks ago I top cleft grafted a bloody butcher to and Arnold rootstock and that has healed well. 5 days ago I then side grafted a Vanessa to this combination. (Why I don't know but seemed a good idea at the time) Both tops are flourishing well and there is evidence of healing at the tongue side graft
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            The Vanessa is on the left and I need now to separate its root and hope that I don't kill the whole lot
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            Any ideas of the best way to go about slowly dividing the Vanessa root on the left. I don't know if it will work but it's only an experiment in grafting. It's certainly healthy enough at present!! Thanks
             
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              A complete guess from me but if the 'Vanessa' graft is only 5 days old I'd be tempted to leave it a while longer to make extra sure it's well taken.It looks really healthy though:thumbsup: I'd then take a blade and slice below the clip,but then would the wound bleed? I wonder if you could seal it with wax...just thinking out loud:rolleyespink: @JWK the man for this one:thumbsup:

              Brilliant job DRB:love30:
               
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                Your grafts are looking very healthy DRB, well done.

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                I'd slice half way through the stem just below the graft to begin with - leave it two or three days and if the Vanessa hasn't wilted then slice the whole way through.
                 
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                  Yes with the other side grafts I cut half way through first and then 3 days later cut the rest of the way through the scion root. I was thinking of similar but in even smaller increments so if there was signs of wilting I could shove it back in the healing chamber in darkness for 24hr and rest it. I need to slowly encourage it to thrive off the rootstock I will see what JWK says if he gets back. Bit of a daft idea anyway. Ta..
                   
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                    I think it's a brillant idea:thumbsup:
                     
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                    Ok. Consensus. Leave few more days then will start to divide Vanessa. Will let you know how goes. No more small plants left to try anything else and getting busy on allotment with routine stuff.
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                    Black beauty on tomato rootstock beginning to accelerate away now
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                    Simple top grafted
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                    Hope your pot/toms work out well, JWK
                    Will update again soon
                     
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                      Very interesting thread.....thank you both for posting. I'm looking forward to the updates. :thumbsup:
                       
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                        Interesting stuff, I think I might have to read more about this grafting malarkey. :)
                         
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                          Update on that double graft. I took well and I left it heal for a further 5 days and divided as suggested in the forum in two stages. No problems It never blinked
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                          Vanessa on left Bloody Butcher on Right

                          Both Grafts
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                          (Elastic banding is just for some initial support when I remove clip)

                          Other grafts in full pots now growing fast. Look sturdy plants. Pleased with them so far
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                          Healed graft in big plant.

                          How,s Pot/Tom grafting going JWK? Was thinking of trying but I have no idea of the growing schedule to try and get even stems. Will leave it to you. I may try next year.

                          I have tried another weird one which is in the dark hopefully healing at present I will post photo when I uncover it in 2 days.
                           
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                            They do look healthy DRB, so are they in their final position/pots now?

                            I got my timings a bit wrong, the potato sprouts are much thicker than my tomato stems, still I'm hopeful they will be OK. I only grafted them yesterday. They will stay in covered plastic boxes until Friday in the cool/dark with occasional misting:
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                            At the weekend I'll start introducing light and cutting down the misting.
                             
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