Does this look like topsoil please?

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  1. ThePlantAssassin

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    The so called 'gardener' has no right to be angry with you coz that is just awful! He just didnt like being caught out. Hope you've got a solution sorted now. Definitely a bullet dodged I'd say!
    I have had too darn many experiences of a chap with a van claiming to be a 'gardener'
    Best Wishes.
     
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    • Lou55

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      Thank you - I believe he has been caught out!! I don't think he liked being questioned and one of his comments was "if it wasn't raining I would have laid the turf straight away and you would have been none the wiser". I learnt a lot from that - can't believe he even said it! Lou
       
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      • pete

        pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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        So is he taking it all away?:biggrin:
         
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          What a jerk! Good on you for calling him out on it.
           
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            I would call that bottom soil, with the emphasis on bottom :)
             
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            • Lou55

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              No, says I should just pay him for it and we'll leave it. To be honest - I don't want a fight and will put this £140 down to a lesson being learned. !
               
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              • Lou55

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                Just a thought - if I buy some soil conditioner to add to this, and remove as many stones as I can do you think it is likely to work? Getting rid of this is going to be a huge pain (15m sq x 5cm deep) so I'm trying to think of a workaround. Thinking of adding the above, treading then putting seed down instead of turf to see how it goes. What do you reckon lovely people?
                 
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                  If you can remove the stones and improve the soil that would be step forward for sure but what do you mean by "Soil Improver", Lou?:scratch:
                   
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                    I would add something like this, one bag this size would raise your existing soil level by 5cm:

                    Premium Topsoil

                    Which is local to me so perhaps out of your area, I plan to use it for my front garden soon.
                    The key is "screened to 10mm" - so no big stones or lumps, also described as "weed free". This would be good for seeding as the last thing you need is weeds springing up. Hopefully you can find a supplier locally for this sort of price and with recommendations.
                     
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                    • Lou55

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                      ARMANDII - Ahh, my fault. Soil conditioner. There is a well known DIY company (not sure if I'm allowed to mention names here!) that sells a 50l bag of soil conditioner for just under £5. I thought a couple of bags of this turned in to the claggy mess I've got now would help to make it a bit more useable. The seed is quite cheap and not so much of a loss if it doesn't take - would be nice if I could somehow improve what is down rather than 1. the expense of getting it taken away 2. finding someone decent 3. Another argument :-)
                       
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                      How big is the area you need to do? And how deep is the rubbish stuff that "the Gardener" has put down?
                       
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                        15 sq metres and two inches deep, (quoted from previous page) ;)
                         
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                        • pete

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                          I say rake the stones out and add what @JWK suggests.
                          The soil improver is probably just organic matter that will disappear in a year or two.

                          If the stuff he has laid is too clayey and likely to cause water laying on the surface you could add a bulk bag of sharp sand, you need something that will remain in the soil and not just rot away.
                           
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                            I would suggest you watch some video's
                            How to prepare ground to lay new turf.
                            Then you can see what a good gardener should do.
                            That was not topsoil that chap dumped in your garden. Disgusting con trick.
                            Thank goodness for you helpful neighbour.

                            what is topsoil - Google Search

                             
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                              Got to be honest and say I would be removing the whole lot and starting fresh. My concern would be where it came from and what’s in it chemical wise so if I was doing the job I would recommend starting fresh.
                              Sadly with gardeners it’s always a gamble to know what they are like, it’s a trade of never ending learning.
                              Personally I would not have paid him and got a second opinion on his work then gone from there. He might be ok, just not enough know how or he knew he was taking a short cut and was caught out so very hard to say.
                              At least you can take up your options and go from there.
                               
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