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E10 Petrol and cars made before 2011

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  1. Fat Controller

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    Yes, I've checked it all - good charge from the alternator, good battery (brand new), even gone as far as checking for it being inhibited by steering angle, climate control, seatbelt and so on. The only one left (and I am not bothering with it at the moment) is wear sensors on the front brake pads believe it or not. Plenty of meat on the pads yet, and I can't afford to be doing discs and pads at the moment anyway, so I will live without stop/start (which I am not a fan of anyway)
     
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      Luckily s/start is an easy thing to do without but i guess it's just not knowing..
      I know what you mean about priorities with money.
      We budget well in retirement by being careful, but now we've got produce coming on strong.
      Todays lunch had new potatoes, Nero kale, romanescu and the first pick of runner beans (yum) all from my allotment.
      Only thing we bought was the chicken which does us 3 days in different guises, so good veg really helps subsidise the grocery bill. Apology for straying off topic but I couldn't resist showing off my veg exploits.
      John
       
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        Cost of everything has gone up - rent went up this month, diesel is up, gas and leccy are up - - yet wages haven't budged for a couple of years. Being off hasn't helped either - I needed to buy some health bits and bobs including a nebuliser, so that all lays on the old funds.

        I had a look at my potatoes and kale today - harvesting some from next week so that will help a wee bit.
         
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          Hi,

          Just been reading an article in this weeks Garden News; the marketing director of Stiga mowers says that "E10 should be used (in mowers) within 30 days of purchase" and that if used after 30 days it " increases the chance of corrosion and gum formation... and so poor starting "

          So what about our cars, we typically fill up to the top each time but with covid have not been doing the miles , so a full tank easily lasts more than 30 days.

          Surely with many EU motorists alreadly on E10 will be in a similar situation, are they having fuel problems because E10 has gone stale ??
           
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            My gallon can of petrol for my mower lasts at least a month :dunno:
             
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            The higher ethanol content is the problem - being hygroscopic it will absorb any moisture present, thus leading to corrosion etc. The only way around this is to either use super unleaded (so still only 5% ethanol) or to use a fuel stabiliser. The frustrating thing is that all of this, dreamed up by our wonderful civil service, is little more than a tax grab.
             
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              For those that are troubled about whether or not E10 can be used in their cars, ACEA (European Motor Manufacturers Organisation) have put together a list of cars that are compatible with this type of fuel.
               
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              Filled up today and for the first time there are notices on the pumps telling people to check their cars are compatible, it will be the first time most people have ever heard of E10.
               
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                It will be very interesting to see how it fares in terms of fuel economy difference - according to the RAC, smaller engined cars are going to be the worst affected, but they don't state why
                 
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                  Just paid £1.56 a ltr for super unleaded for the ride on / strimmer etc :cry3:

                  Not easy to find either. Local morrisons dont sell it and esso havent had it for a fortnight. Local ripp off Shell had to do.
                  This E10 will gum up carbs,rot fuel lines etc especially as my well cared for equipment is getting on 25 years old.

                  At a time of world hunger, food shortages we decide to grow more food to put into petrol to "save " the planet.

                  Maniacs are in charge of the Asylum.:pillow::rolleyespink::pillow:
                   
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                    Assume its because being small they will notice any drop in performance /mpg more than a larger one ?

                    Makes us wonder about the MOT emissions test, though it should improve the C02, does it adversely affect other parameters ?

                    Looks like a lot of various Ethanol Stabilisers out there though varying prices per 50 ltr tank of petrol, some as much as £12 per tank !
                     
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                      You'd be just as well using super unleaded at that sort of money.
                       
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                        Just filled up with E10 today, no problems at all, except my exhaust now smells like my green bin :smile:
                        E5 is still available in high price fuel like V-Plus Shell etc, but most cars even after 2000 are ok with E10 better check though.
                         
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